Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Al
Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's all true, but the fact remains that people who have legally purchased the software are being penalized for being human. I have no problem with the proof of purchase or the $15, Penalty being the proof and the $15. but the time frame is

RE: [H] Auto-FTP program

2005-05-05 Thread Whittaker
Use a command line scheduler and built in FTP in command line (cmd) I didn't know I could use scripting with the command line FTP. Cool. As you can transfer a file from one server to another without downloading with no problem, can scripting be used to have an FTP client transfer a file

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
Does anyone see this as simply a drive to make people to upgrade to XP. And a drive for an easy $15 ;-)

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread CW
Seriously (and here's where I will get catcalls) this is why I wish MS -did- have a way to force more people to literally upgrade; If you're still running Win98, etc. I'd prefer they almost say sorry, we don't support that product at all anymore You can say oh, that's unfair but call Ford and

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: But MS doesn't allow aftermarket, so that's not a fair comparison. If all I do is Word Processing and Email, why should I have to upgrade my Pentium 233 to XP (which would require a hardware upgrade as well?) Keeping the auth number generator software costs MS

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:38 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: How can you be sure the support time is really covered by $15? These problems go away of the customer keeps up with their own info... Hmmm... underpaid Indian worker gives fax number to caller - 3 minutes looks at fax - 1 minute Loads keygen

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
On 5/5/05, Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:38 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: How can you be sure the support time is really covered by $15? These problems go away of the customer keeps up with their own info... Hmmm... underpaid Indian worker gives fax number to

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 02:38 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: How can you be sure the support time is really covered by $15? These problems go away of the customer keeps up with their own info... Hmmm... underpaid Indian worker gives fax number to caller - 3 minutes looks at fax - 1

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:54 PM 05/05/2005, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You really think those are all the costs involved? The generated income must pay for *all* costs involved... Oh Christ, Anthony, you win. MS is losing billions a year on this stuff, I'm sure. T --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude

Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck

2005-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
FORC5 wrote: customers should NOT need numbers, KEYS SUCK. and always have IMO :-} I agree.

Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck

2005-05-05 Thread FORC5
customers should NOT need numbers, KEYS SUCK. and always have IMO :-} At 06:58 AM 5/5/2005, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with: Thane Sherrington wrote: This is lovely. The new MS rule on regenerating Auth numbers for people with CDs and lost numbers. You fax in a proof of purchase (must be

Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck

2005-05-05 Thread Francisco Tapia
I'm comming into this conversation way late... So are they charging for the KEY or the authentication number?On 5/5/05, Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FORC5 wrote: customers should NOT need numbers, KEYS SUCK. and always have IMO :-} I agree. --

Re: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread CW
OK, I guess I've just missed the point. Can anyone show me a single instance where MS has prosecuted a home user for borrowing a key? -Original message- From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:53:51 -0500 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck

2005-05-05 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [H] New MS rule/keys suck Yes. Also, customers shouldn't lose those numbers. Why don't vendors simply put a sticker on or inside the

RE: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Chris Reeves
(note: this is for Windows98 only, and applies for initially legally valid copies) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:59 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] New MS rule OK, I guess I've just missed the

RE: [H] New MS rule

2005-05-05 Thread Chris Reeves
OK, but at question here, if I understand correctly, is the generation of keys for older OS (98 specifically) your example that a borrowed key works seems to highlight my position of: if you're really out a 98SE key, and you waste the time calling them instead of finding any of the millions of

[H] coolers

2005-05-05 Thread FORC5
http://tinyurl.com/dpjmy bad boy for sure, where are they headed, condensers mounted OUTSIDE :-! :-} -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- If it's more than you need, it's greed.

Re: [H] coolers

2005-05-05 Thread Greg Sevart
Definitely big, but you need an absolute monstrosity to passively keep the mini nuclear furnace that is the Intel Prescott cool. Greg - Original Message - From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:45 PM Subject: [H] coolers