Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Ben Ruset
The thing is, at least on the spyware front, that most spyware requires you to be browsing in IE to become infected. Most Mac people don't use IE5 for Mac anymore, since it's so old and a piece of crap compared to Safari. Without ActiveX, it's a lot harder to get spyware on your machine.

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Eli Allen
Spyware requires IE because that is the browser most novices use who don't know how to easily avoid spyware. Firefox does support native plugins so don't see how you can say that Firefox is really any different from IE. Eli - Original Message - The thing is, at least on the spyware

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:00 AM 16/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote: Spyware requires IE because that is the browser most novices use who don't know how to easily avoid spyware. Firefox does support native plugins so don't see how you can say that Firefox is really any different from IE. Except that it doesn't support

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Ben Ruset
Lack of support for ActiveX. Eli Allen wrote: Spyware requires IE because that is the browser most novices use who don't know how to easily avoid spyware. Firefox does support native plugins so don't see how you can say that Firefox is really any different from IE.

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Eli Allen
Just because it doesn't support ActiveX doesn't mean anything. As I said, spyware requires IE because that is the browser most novices use who don't know how to easily avoid spyware. There is nothing inherent about ActiveX other then it being the popular way of doing things so if another

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Eli Allen
Native code is native code. Nothing inherent about ActiveX. - Original Message - Lack of support for ActiveX. Eli Allen wrote: Spyware requires IE because that is the browser most novices use who don't know how to easily avoid spyware. Firefox does support native plugins so don't

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread warpmedia
Same animal, different sub-species. Plugins Java do form an attack vector in FF/Moz just not as an effective one. Anytime you allow something to extend or run custom code, you're taking a risk. Gotta admit I only see IE once or twice a week these days so FF is working out as a replacement

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:39 AM 16/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote: Just because it doesn't support ActiveX doesn't mean anything. As I said, spyware requires IE Except that it avoids all the ActiveX nasties out there. Which is currently the main infection vector, as I understand it. is nothing inherent about

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Eli Allen
What vulnerabilities does ActiveX have that FF doesn't? In both cases you a prompted if you want to install, and in both cases if you say yes you get infected. Eli - Original Message - At 09:39 AM 16/06/2005, Eli Allen wrote: Just because it doesn't support ActiveX doesn't mean

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Carroll Kong
Eli Allen wrote: Just because it doesn't support ActiveX doesn't mean anything. As I said, spyware requires IE because that is the browser most novices use who don't know how to easily avoid spyware. There is nothing inherent about ActiveX other then it being the popular way of doing things

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Ben Ruset
Because most of the time you're NOT prompted to install. Eli Allen wrote: What vulnerabilities does ActiveX have that FF doesn't? In both cases you a prompted if you want to install, and in both cases if you say yes you get infected. Eli

Re: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:28 AM 16/06/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: Because most of the time you're NOT prompted to install. Aren't you listening Ben? ActiveX only poses a threat to newbies and idiots. FF is just as dangerous. You heard it here first. :P T Eli Allen wrote: What vulnerabilities does ActiveX

RE: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Chris Reeves
Because ActiveX can ride pre-approved AOX objects and -not- prompt the user to be installed. This has changed with SP2 in XP, but many users are still not running that.. prior to SP2, the prompts weren't there for objects that piggy-backed a zone (pretended to be from approved sources like MS,

[H] cable modem password ?

2005-06-16 Thread FORC5
have a best data cable modem cmx300 trying to log on with 192.168.100.1 but the usual suspects for pw do not work. any clues ? or can this only be accessed by my provider ? fp thanks -- Tallyho ! ]:8) -- Man loves little and often, woman much and rarely.

[H] Hard drive recomendation

2005-06-16 Thread Gary Udstrand
I am building a system and since I do a lot of digital photography and video I would like the best combination of performance and storage possible. Quiet would be nice too and as such I have been looking at the 400GB Seagate Barracuda's. Unfortunately there lackluster review on storage review

Re: [H] DiVX 6 Released

2005-06-16 Thread Greg Sevart
Right now everything I have is in Xvid, which I love. But there are some nice things about Divx 6. It scales up to awesome quality (comparable to Apple's H.264 some say) and awesome compression (even smaller file sizes than Xvid). Just to be picky--Apple had nothing to do with the

Re: [H] Hard drive recomendation

2005-06-16 Thread Winterlight
I have a Media box built around a P4 Prescott 3.4 that uses a Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L300S0 300GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 . I have been using the original version for about six months, and I just ordered this SATA II version yesterday to add to it

RE: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
The real vulnerability that IE has that firefox doesn't is the way it supports scripting. In IE you can go to a page and never be prompted anything and have 30mb of crapware installed. Firefox allows you to control what type of scripting you want to allow. That is a major benefit however you

Re: [H] Hard drive recomendation

2005-06-16 Thread Gary Udstrand
I just added a Raptor to the order. With the Raptor as the boot drive the performance of the data drive becomes a little less critical.I looked for the larger Hitachi but did not find it listed on NewEgg. The T7K250 is the same price as the 250G Barracuda. Right now I am trying to decide

RE: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 03:01 PM 16/06/2005, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: benefit however you shouldn't feel safe in a ff enviorement either. For work all I do is research malicious URL's and Malware and we mainly use Would you mind sharing some of the URLs you are researching so we can test our systems against them? T

Re: [H] Hard drive recomendation

2005-06-16 Thread Greg Sevart
I have no doubt that the T7K250 is a bit louder than the Barracuda 7200.8. However, both drives will be quite quiet. (Much quieter than, say, the WD 2500JB drives). Indeed, with any modern drive, noise is not nearly as much of a concern as it once was. You would be pretty safe with either

Re: [H] DiVX 6 Released

2005-06-16 Thread jeff.lane
Thanks for the explanation. Jeff - Original Message - From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hwg hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [H] DiVX 6 Released Why would you have to do that, Brian? http://www.divx.com/divx/dmf.php Right now

RE: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:06 PM 16/06/2005, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: What are you looking to do exactly? I was thinking hardening a system, then taking it to a malicious page, and see if the hardening protected it. T

Re: [H] Hard drive recomendation

2005-06-16 Thread Gary Udstrand
I am getting 2G of RAM (2x1G, that is the max that the Shuttle SN25P will hold). I like the idea of having a Raptor for the boot drive and applications and a couple of drives for data. I also added a Sapphire Raedon X800XL video card (that should make the kids happy). Thanks to all for you

Re: [H] Hard drive recomendation

2005-06-16 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 03:25 PM 6/16/2005, Gary Udstrand typed: I am getting 2G of RAM (2x1G, that is the max that the Shuttle SN25P will hold). I like the idea of having a Raptor for the boot drive and applications and a couple of drives for data. I also added a Sapphire Raedon X800XL video card (that should

RE: [H] Dvorak's take on Intel-Apple

2005-06-16 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
Well if you want to test that I have a perl script you can use to test to see if your machine has any new files on it. So what you can do is browse sites that are most prone to trying to exploit your browser ie porn, hacking, misc. Then you run the script and it will display any new files of

Re: [H] Hard drive recomendation

2005-06-16 Thread Gary Udstrand
Sure, then you can buy me the PC for Father's Day! :-) LOL. -Gary Wayne Johnson said the following on 6/16/2005 3:00 PM: At 03:25 PM 6/16/2005, Gary Udstrand typed: I am getting 2G of RAM (2x1G, that is the max that the Shuttle SN25P will hold). I like the idea of having a Raptor for

[H] BitTorrent

2005-06-16 Thread Robert Turnbull
From Securing the Enterprise: Anti-spyware advocates cry foul as the popular peer-to-peer protocol becomes the latest mechanism for the stealthy distribution of adware/spyware bundles. http://ct.enews.eweek.com/rd/cts?d=186-2159-5-92-42064-245376-0-0-0-1 Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada

RE: [H] BitTorrent

2005-06-16 Thread Hayes Elkins
From: Robert Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] BitTorrent Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:32:12 -0400 From Securing the Enterprise: Anti-spyware advocates cry foul as the popular peer-to-peer protocol becomes

Re: [H] BitTorrent

2005-06-16 Thread Brian Weeden
FYI the problem is not with BitTorrent itself but with people downloading files and malware being hidden the file. Usually they grab a TV episode and it comes as an .exe or a .rar and when they run it the malware installs. I would hope most of the people on this list know not to run random .exes

[H] OT: Newer Nero available.. Nero-6.6.0.14

2005-06-16 Thread JRS
In the usual places... -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.

Re: [H] BitTorrent

2005-06-16 Thread JRS
LOL. Hacked already. :) I wonder if the company is happy with this newfound exposure in the media? Let's look at their website: http://www.marketingmetrixgroup.com/ -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.