On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Stan Zaske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I feel the same way. I just want a single card powerful enough to play
modern games on my 24 monitor and leave it at that.
Far Cry 2 and the ATI and nVidia cards:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3463p=1
Hello Stan,
Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:48:46 PM, you wrote:
I feel the same way. I just want a single card powerful enough to play
modern games on my 24 monitor and leave it at that. Have you got Wrath
of the Lich King yet?
Yeah I preordered collectors from Amazon and then did a midnight
Time was when that was all I'd build with, that time being 1995 dunno if they're
still as good. One thing for sure they're not as sexy as Coolemaster, Thermaltake, etc...
PSU's were Sparkle or Enermax if memory serves.
Thane Sherrington wrote:
Are In-win cases and power supplies any good?
T
Forget Duncan's insight, well intentioned but only vaguely accurate. That's not how
you'd go about testing this issue since the power good line of the PSU is showing OK
as the system powers up stays on depending on case orientation.
When you say start I assume you mean power button jumper
My asus Rampage uses all ICH9 support for SATA and the the JMicron just for a single
PATA port. Should not be an issue getting them to work unless you have RAID or ACH
enabled in the BIOS causing issues due to non-HDD devices attached.
Farenheight readings mean nothing in the computer world,
Open the INF file make sure the right ID's are listed compared to what the system
has detected.
Sometimes you have to tell windows a driver is for a device explicitly depending on
how badly the driver is written. Likely Rosewill did not make this card themselves,
so I'd be looking into the
I told you when you 1st asked, good PATA-SATA briges are $30+ depending on who's
bridge chip it is and I don't care who chimes in with Hong Kong Fooies brand works
fine @ $6, you get what you pay for in hardware support.
IMHO it's better to spend the same ($30+) bucks getting good PATA-USB2
Hello Raul,
Monday, November 24, 2008, 4:04:29 AM, you wrote:
Far Cry 2 and the ATI and nVidia cards:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3463p=1
This gives a better perspective, I may not waste my money on an X2.
Seems like way overkill for WoW. Sad no one does tests with WoW
Or save some bread and get a pair of 3870X2's now that they are dirt cheap. ;)
Joe User wrote:
Hello al,
Saturday, November 22, 2008, 1:58:58 PM, you wrote:
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:05 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127384
saw an add for a new Tombraider game on TV the other day.
fp
At 05:56 PM 11/23/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with:
Al,
Perhaps MS Flight Sim in a demo mode; MS train sim in a demo mode, Sim City.
Hard to say. I most play the old Tomb Raider games I never finished.
Duncan
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Tallyho ! ]:8)
Yeah, it's a RF choke and beneficial but required assuming the entire signal path
from PC to device is clean enough.
Booting could be an issue since you are adding an extra device into the path between
host device that the BIOS may not be able to cope with.
Be careful using long and/or
Also consider it could be the network card drivers.
Brian Weeden wrote:
A while back I was running into a similar issue with svchost taking up a lot
of CPU resources and it turned out to be a bug in windows update (a race
condition I think).
From what I can gather, svchost is involved in a
For multi-GPU on a P35 the HDx870X2's (3 or 4 series) are the only way.
Also need to watch for dead air issues in the card cage area on some cases with these
beasts.
No matter what, avoid Sapphire!!!
James Boswell wrote:
hi,
Your P35 chipset mainboard doesn't support SLI, it DOES support
Blah blah, it's always a moving target, there will be a driver update. Of course Ubi
is moronic to begin with I'd not be surprised if they developed on/for NV which is
the ultimate source of the problem. Developing for one brand is a practice that's
needs to stop as it's screwing the customer.
experience, every ATI card I ever dealt with either new install, upgrade or
whatever has been a PITA
I try real hard not to slam my thumb in the car door more then once
fp
At 07:35 AM 11/24/2008, maccrawj Poked the stick with:
You think ATI is ruining AMD? Excuse me for the insult, but you are
Yes, so did I. Shocked I was!
Duncan
At 07:29 11/24/2008 -0700, you wrote:
saw an add for a new Tombraider game on TV the other day.
fp
At 05:56 PM 11/23/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with:
Al,
Perhaps MS Flight Sim in a demo mode; MS train sim in a demo mode, Sim City.
Hard to say. I most
Right now is wrong time to buy a card as the 2x0's the HD48xx series are so new
that prices are too high. Arguments have been made that 2x0 being cheaper is better
way to go, I say wait for prices to level off before making that mistake.
The reason to buy such a highend card is two fold: 1.
2 x HD4850 are arguably better for a lot of people.
The 4850 blows all previous arguments against dual gfx cards out of the
water..the price/performance ratio on them is outstanding.
I personally use the 4870x2 but I have a 30 display to run, which ties
my hands somewhat.
Still, I'd prefer
AMD cards are great - I've been buying them exclusively for the last several
years. It's their drivers that are crap (although to be fair, Nvidia's are
far from perfect as well, but AMD's are worse still).
---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation
You think ATI is ruining AMD? Excuse me for the insult, but you are a moron sir! Read
a bit about AMD's business practices and their effect on both companies.
If you're insinuating that ATI video cards are sub-par, then you've been drinking NV
cool-aid while ignoring reviews benchmarks.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
Al
j.,
Your comments are duly noted. Thank you. more inline below..
At 06:12 11/24/2008 -0800, you wrote:
My asus Rampage uses all ICH9 support for SATA and the the JMicron just
for a single PATA port. Should not be an issue getting them to work unless
you have RAID or ACH enabled in the
Seeking opinions. Thinking of ordering these 2 video cards.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127390
MSI 4350/512 ~$40.00 USD
This card would be used for bringing up new systems mostly. It could end up
being my primary office video card. I do like the 'no-far' design.
http://www.gpureview.com/superlatives.php
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Seeking opinions. Thinking of ordering these 2 video
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I use Talkworks PRO 3.0 in XP PRO as a message
Alex,
So, are you suggesting to blow off the 4670 and just focus on the 4350
until I can afford the 4780?
Thank you for the link, but I may have drawn the wrong conclusion. I am
not opposed to an nVidia solution, but at the moment, it seems that nVidia
just does not have their sh** together.
I was just giving other opinions for best bang for the buck based on budget.
In what way does Nvidia does not have their shit together? I'm not partial
to either brand, only to value-performance.
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Alex,
Thank you. I understand your value/performance metric. At this point, I
would be happy to follow this path! It seems that the collective has soured
on nVidia. Perhaps drivers, perhaps card architecture; I just do not know
ATM. All I know, is that the general push seems to be toward ATI.
I hear you.
Most new stuff is odd.
On a new MB one have to upgrade the BIOS 3-5 times before the MB works as
advertised. Price doesn't appear to matter.
HDDs are shipped with bogus data and degraded performance, and then - maybe - a
BIOS update.
A good hint could be sticking to the brands
If you place progs and utils on another drive letter, 4-8 Gigs is sufficient.
That is, if the swap file is set to a static size (e.g. 1.5*RAM)
DHSinclair wrote:
What is a reasonable partition size for WinXP?
I ask this because I have watched both W2K and WinXP getting close to
outgrowing the
Also known as Scripting by Access.
The very nice util - WebWasher - that I've been shamelessly recommending ;)
does the +same job + more.
Brian Weeden wrote:
Click Jacking (more formerly known as UI Redressing is the process where
you hide a page with links in an HTML layer behind another
Hey guys,
It's been quite a while, Happy Holidays!
I just had ATT install Uverse and among the issues I have with it, they
disconnected my DSL and installed a wireless network in my house. So now my
ping is way high in online games and now sometimes I get bounced off the
servers. Grrr...
Soren,
Yes, was always my plan. I try to stay with the bigger names.
Right now, I am Intel/Asus/Seagate/AOpen/Sony.
And all of the I/O is happy and has been burning in fine.
Yes, I do have a pair of Sabrent pata-sata converters in the mix also.
Mostly for test; just because I am too cheap to buy
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