Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-18 Thread maccrawj
It's not the initial cost it's the forced renewals. SAVCE has none and is a legit product if any vendor still has stock. Question is what IS the business pack version? 5 licenses of CE that keep on working or 5 licenses that time out in a year? Your response makes no sense to me. Support is

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-17 Thread Soren
As far as I remember, With SAV CE one'd pay an annual fee per system, so it's not that different from a single user licence, except support is actually existing with the CE license :) The actual subscription period may vary with CE, though, e.g. a five-year subscription. Price may vary. 1. No

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-16 Thread maccrawj
Personally I like SAV CE 10.x since it's just AV keeps on updating w/o needing $$$ annual renewals. They can keep all that integrated crap IMHO and I refuse to use any AV that holds customers hostage for ransom on updates after 1 year no matter how good. So the issues I'm running into with a

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-16 Thread FORC5
I personally gave up on SAV ( which I really liked ) when it started telling me most of my tools were *hacker* tools and started deleting them .(DUH) Ways to stop it but it P'ed me off so none of my systems are currently using SAV 10. FWIW McAfee does the same thing and does not ask permission.

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-16 Thread Rick Glazier
Symantec has an exclusions list for stuff you want un-touched. I find it easier to keep the files somewhere else. (Or store them in encripted archives.) Rick Glazier From: FORC5 Not sure about the newer Norton,

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-16 Thread FORC5
understand but if I forget to turn SAV off b4 plugging a thumb drive into a customer box, wam. combofix is just gone :'( it is not a virus or spyware and should be none of SAV business fp At 07:48 AM 9/16/2009, Rick Glazier Poked the stick with: Symantec has an exclusions list for stuff you want

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-16 Thread Rick Glazier
Sorry, I forgot about using stuff other places. (I rarely do.) (And about - how you would un-pack it there.) But, I can't agree with the rest. They have to draw the line in the sand somewhere. One persons' hacking stuff is someone else's fix'in tools... grin Rick Glazier From: FORC5 it is

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-15 Thread Tim Lider
- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:26 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign? NAV 2009+ does do micro updates

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-15 Thread Rick Glazier
I took off about 5 years with Symantic products. (I spent too much time fixing them for friends, etc...) Then I got a Laptop with NIS2008, and after I got it running, I actually liked it (them) again. (It conflicted with other crapware that came with it from HP.) I liked it so much I added it

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-15 Thread Soren
Heh-he. A firm alternative could be antivir.com. They're usually ahead of the rest of the business (read: confusement), and will serve private users well, as in free beer. www.antivir.com Btw, I still run the Norton/Symantec bulk on several of my desktops. Reason? Antivir has a flaw in

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-14 Thread Rick Glazier
The products (NIS + AV) have improved, except the brain dead *smart update* in Norton Utilities 14. (Newest.) The ads are very odd... Rick Glazier From: Don Couture Their products suck why shouldn't their advertising...

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-14 Thread DSinc
-- From: Rick Glazier Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign? Sent: Sep 14, 2009 6:42 PM The products (NIS + AV) have improved, except the brain dead *smart

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-14 Thread Zulfiqar Naushad
ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign? Sent: Sep 14, 2009 6:42 PM The products (NIS + AV) have improved, except the brain dead *smart update* in Norton Utilities 14. (Newest.) The ads are very odd... Rick Glazier From: Don Couture

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-14 Thread Bobby Heid
, September 14, 2009 12:43 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign? ESET releases def updates as needed; no set schedule IIRC. Best, Duncan Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Just a question. I was curious about the virus def files. Which company

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-13 Thread Steve Tomporowski
We've just discovered the new generation of idiots. CW wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsgqG5OOlMfeature=channel and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRnPbSKUMEsfeature=channel Imagine a hard drive is a chicken? Imagine your identity is a catepillar? Protect your Catepillar from

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-13 Thread DSinc
Cute commercials; but, now that I have/use ESET, Norton has no chance here!! LOL! Best, Duncan CW wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsgqG5OOlMfeature=channel and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRnPbSKUMEsfeature=channel Imagine a hard drive is a chicken? Imagine your identity is a

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-13 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Maybe we need laser-beam vision to keep Norton out, too. :) CW wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsgqG5OOlMfeature=channel and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRnPbSKUMEsfeature=channel Imagine a hard drive is a chicken? Imagine your identity is a catepillar? Protect your Catepillar

Re: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-13 Thread swzaske
LOL Don Couture wrote: Their products suck why shouldn't their advertising... From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com on behalf of CW Sent: Sun 9/13/2009 1:59 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign

[H] -OT- Can anyone explain Norton's new ad campaign?

2009-09-12 Thread CW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsgqG5OOlMfeature=channel and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRnPbSKUMEsfeature=channel Imagine a hard drive is a chicken? Imagine your identity is a catepillar? Protect your Catepillar from Kimbo Slice? Who the hell is running marketing at Symantec?