Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-04 Thread j maccraw
I got a similar response to the effect of NDA when I asked about IronKey functionality for simple obvious things like passphrase length valid characters. In the end they were very helpful gave good answers to my questions. IronKey sounds good an paper vs. anything else currently out. When

[H] Flash drive(s)-r1

2008-03-04 Thread DHSinclair
Took delivery of 2 Corsair 2GB flash drives yesterday. Dang! These things are much smaller than my 2004 Crucial Gizmo 256MB (and it is pretty small) FD. These Corsair FDs are labled Voyager and come with a neat rubber-like covering (blue/black) that has a better 'grip-quotient' than the

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1

2008-03-04 Thread Brian Weeden
Glad to hear, looks like a nice stick. I just ordered another San Disk Titanium to replace the one I lost. I really love the ability to slide the USB connector back into the case to keep it out of harm's way and I'm always losing the end caps that normally come with USB keys.

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1

2008-03-04 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, I did think about the slice back inside feature. In the end, I decided this was another mechanical improvement I could do without. I accept the keep track of the cap business. Have not misplaced/lost a cap yet. I do not travel as much as you. If I misplace a cap, it is in the house

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1

2008-03-04 Thread JRS
Don't forget drives are 1,000,000 bytes per gig, and files and Windows report a gig as 1,073,741,824 bytes.. :) Both ended up at 1.918GB free space. I do not have any tools to look for hidden partitions so I'll just write off the 82MB difference as mfg. tolerance at this point. :)

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1

2008-03-04 Thread JRS
Whoops, left out a set of zeroes. 1,000,000,000 is what I was supposed to type. :) Don't forget drives are 1,000,000 bytes per gig, and files and Windows report a gig as 1,073,741,824 bytes.. :) Both ended up at 1.918GB free space. I do not have any tools to look for hidden

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1

2008-03-04 Thread DHSinclair
Yes, John, That subtle thought did occur to me! So, far, so good. The Corsair Voyager is a good choice. Best, Duncan At 13:42 03/04/2008 -0800, you wrote: Don't forget drives are 1,000,000 bytes per gig, and files and Windows report a gig as 1,073,741,824 bytes.. :) Both ended up at

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1

2008-03-04 Thread DHSinclair
Yea, whatever... I got it! Best, Duncan At 13:52 03/04/2008 -0800, you wrote: Whoops, left out a set of zeroes. 1,000,000,000 is what I was supposed to type. :) snip

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-03 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
respects, anyway, the projects were cool) and it sounds like I'd be glad not to be corporate, too. - Original Message - From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Eh. Part of it is what

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-03 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:26 PM 03/03/2008, Ben Ruset wrote: Would you want your personal info on a computer that would be easy for someone to copy data onto a USB disk and walk out undetected? Of course, no one could ever write down said personal information on a piece of paper. :) T

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-03 Thread Ben Ruset
Would you want your personal info on a computer that would be easy for someone to copy data onto a USB disk and walk out undetected? Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The corporate world of today sounds much like the defence industry of the 90s. I worked in aerospoce in an evironment where everything

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-03 Thread Ben Ruset
Well, it's easy to throw a brick through your window, but you still lock your front door, right? Thane Sherrington wrote: At 01:26 PM 03/03/2008, Ben Ruset wrote: Would you want your personal info on a computer that would be easy for someone to copy data onto a USB disk and walk out

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-03 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:11 PM 03/03/2008, Ben Ruset wrote: Well, it's easy to throw a brick through your window, but you still lock your front door, right? Yes, and it's pretty silly to do that too. Of course, neither are done to protect one's self from unscrupulous people. It is to protect against the

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-03 Thread Brian Weeden
Computer World Magazine just posted an article reviewing 7 secure USB drives from major manufacturers. Some funny and sad stuff in there, especially what sort of gimmicks these vendors put in to try and make their drives secure. In the end they chose IronKey, but really putting free and open

[H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Glazier
Some people think U3 drives are a security risk, and they are starting to be blocked certain places? from being allowed to run their programs. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Ruset
If there's stuff on the drive that you don't want or need, then by all means format it. It shouldn't be required to use the drive as a basic USB disk. DHSinclair wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
- From: Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:47:21 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Some people think U3 drives are a security risk, and they are starting to be blocked certain places? from being allowed to run their programs

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Rick, You brought up the U3 business again. Can you expand on this? Best, Duncan At 16:47 03/02/2008 -0500, Rick wrote: Some people think U3 drives are a security risk, and they are starting to be blocked certain places? from being allowed to run their programs.

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Ruset
No, he's saying that he has a lot of clients that block the use of USB disks. DHSinclair wrote: Chris, Care to expand on last send? Don't understand Is this about old floppy drives? Best, Duncan

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Ben, Plan to treat the new FDs the same way as the old one. I am not worried about any warranty implications.regarding what might be pre-recorded. :) I suspect I am seeking info about this U3 business. Best, Duncan At 17:23 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: If there's stuff on the

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Glazier
IF they are U3 drives, the U3 people have always stated you NEED to use their un-install program to remove the auto-mounting of the emulated CD-ROM drive. (Don't know for sure as I never removed any of mine.) Rick Glazier From: Ben Ruset If there's

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Ben! I was not aware of this, other than just shutting down USB (on current HDW). I thought that USB was now a default protocol. Hmm.? Best, Duncan At 17:44 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: No, he's saying that he has a lot of clients that block the use of USB disks. DHSinclair

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Brian Weeden
Not sure if it has been explained yet, but a lot of modern USB sticks come with U3. This is sort of useful in that it will autolaunch programs and stuff when you stick the key in. But I just see it as one huge security risk and on machines where you aren't admin it can have problems working

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Thanks Rick, I'll read up on this U3 business. Still have a few days. :) Best, Duncan At 17:51 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: IF they are U3 drives, the U3 people have always stated you NEED to use their un-install program to remove the auto-mounting of the emulated CD-ROM drive. (Don't

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Thank you very much. I believe I now have at least the basics to figure this small new problem out. Yes, I do NOT wish any of the new FDs to auto-boot anything. I wish for them to be (appear) as just another removable drive in whatever computer they get plugged into. I am off to

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Winterlight
At 03:16 PM 3/2/2008, you wrote: Brian, Thank you very much. I believe I now have at least the basics to figure this small new problem out. Yes, I do NOT wish any of the new FDs to auto-boot anything. I wish for them to be (appear) as just another removable drive I think it is very unlikely

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Ruset
Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Brian Weeden
Or one would hope that was the situation. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records,

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Glazier
See Brians message. Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:58:43 -0800 (PST) It has the link and confirms things I said eariler. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Thanks Rick, You

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Rick Glazier
PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Thanks Rick, I'll read up on this U3 business. Still have a few days. :) Best, Duncan

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Winterlight, Thanks for that info. I was hoping that none of the new devices would be harnessed with U3, but it has been some time since I've spent money on new tech (mostly old replacement stuff). Am happy to read that I might beat this latest trend. I will wait and see. At worst, I'll

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Ruset
Well, security is only as good as the policies that the organization decides on, the technology used, and the skill of the people implementing them. Brian Weeden wrote: Or one would hope that was the situation. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Ben, Thanks. I do comprehend the gov't connection. It does make much sense. Fortunately, I do not do any gov't work anymore. But, I am sensitive to those that do. Gov't security is only limited to my past personal records/business. Yes; the stuff of all future phishing attacks. That

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Thanks Rick, You brought up the U3 business again. Can you expand on this?

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Where is the straight ahead sw routine to kill/remove the U3 business?? From your link all I get is a webpage that try's to lame me about what I plan to do (kill any U3 on the flash drive). One of those, Are you really sure you want to do this? Well, YES. I am sure. Why else did I

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, I am very thick. I did finally navigate to: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/uninstall.aspx Oddly, none of the choices given fit my circumstances. Nothing to download for local use. So, I'll just format my new FDs and get on with life. I will look at anything added to the FDs, and, maybe save

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Brian Weeden
They definitely don't make it easy do they. You have to navigate through 4 different pages each time saying yes, I want to remove this crap from my USB drive. On the link you just sent, click No Thanks, Continue will take you to another page where you can click on the button to download the

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Thank you. CHA-CHING! You have this down. I can presume that you have been here more than a few times before. Found it, and will use it if necessary. Link filed. Yes, with this many hoops I know I do not need any of it. Perhaps I asked an offhand question, but, I received

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Hayes Elkins
flash drive into a desktop and take the entire network shares with you - it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread Chris Reeves
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) so the personal computer is truly dead. Hayes Elkins wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
- it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access

Re: [H] Flash drive(s)

2008-03-02 Thread DHSinclair
desk, call them and meet them at Denny's in the morning with a crate of their crap. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:45:19 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) so the personal