Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Rick Glazier
Things are getting better. It is becoming a mature OS. Rick Glazier From: FORC5 curious how that is working for ya ? I have that but am afraid to mess with it due to the stories I read about drivers and such. At 08:21 PM 12/17/2008, Bryan Seitz Poked

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
I agree. Although Vista is bloated compared to XP, it has become much more mature and rock stable. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Rick Glazier rickglaz...@gmail.com wrote: Things are getting better. It is becoming a mature OS. Rick Glazier From:

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Weeden
One would hope by the second service pack they actually get it working right :) I haven't found any real problems with Vista (aside from a handful of annoyances) but there still isn't anything to really make me recommend it over XP. Brian On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Rick Glazier

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Bryan Seitz
Yeah agreed Brian. XP64 is ROCK solid ( based on Win2003 kernel ) and I found good drivers for everything I own. Current setup: Areca 2 port PCI-E Raid card for RAID1 OS disk(s) 6G of Triple Channel OCZ PC1333 Ramz 620W 3 12V rails Corsair PSU Asus P6T Deluxe X58 motherboard * Onboard sound is

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread FORC5
how about backward compatibility ? I have a couple of really old proggie I use all the time, one for envelopes. Pretty sure these are 16bit, was a effort to get them to run in xp. fp At 09:22 AM 12/18/2008, Bryan Seitz Poked the stick with: I tried Vista twice and not only did it feel

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Bryan Seitz
Unknown if really old (esp 16 bit) apps work properly. I use plenty of 32 bit apps though and they work flawlessly. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:57:00AM -0700, FORC5 wrote: how about backward compatibility ? I have a couple of really old proggie I use all the time, one for envelopes. Pretty

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread JRS
Ditto, but I also don't like the changes they made to Explorer.  That's one of my main complaints of Vista.   I haven't found any real problems with Vista (aside from a handful of annoyances) but there still isn't anything to really make me recommend it over XP. Brian

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Jason Carson
Ditto, but I also don't like the changes they made to Explorer.  That's one of my main complaints of Vista.   I haven't found any real problems with Vista (aside from a handful of annoyances) but there still isn't anything to really make me recommend it over XP. Brian Well the only

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
. lopaka --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Subject: Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 8:22 AM Yeah agreed Brian. XP64 is ROCK solid ( based on Win2003 kernel ) and I found good

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread JRS
Yep.  I use the Freeware nLite to strip stuff out of my Windows installs too when I do the SP slipstreams.  :)  Works like a charm.    -- JRS steinie**...@pacbell.net Please remove **X** to reply... I will switch to Vista once there are no activation issues, and when utilities can strip

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Winterlight
At 08:57 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote: how about backward compatibility ? I have a couple of really old proggie I use all the time, one for envelopes. Pretty sure these are 16bit, was a effort to get them to run in xp. fp nothing in 16bit runs in vista64, I don't know about XP64... I read that

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Bryan Seitz
Yeah nLite/vLite are AWESOME. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:01:36AM -0800, JRS wrote: Yep.? I use the?Freeware?nLite to strip?stuff out of my Windows installs too when I do the SP slipstreams.? :)? Works like a charm.? ? -- JRS steinie**...@pacbell.net Please remove **X** to reply...

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Weeden
Using vlite is how I discovered the several hundred MB of unnecessary tablet PC stuff that is part of every Vista install, including desktops. Had a weird problem with the one time I did a vlite install. Somehow, it corrupted the real administrator account. I was logged in as administrator and

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread FORC5
I use FF in my server with Vista, do not use it for much though except when the family is on the main box. there are a few annoyances for sure. fp At 10:23 AM 12/18/2008, JRS Poked the stick with: Ditto, but I also don't like the changes they made to Explorer. That's one of my main complaints

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread FORC5
-bit boxes. XPLite only takes about 300 megs for the OS and is way faster without the bloatware. lopaka --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Subject: Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Weeden
-unix.net wrote: From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Subject: Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 8:22 AM Yeah agreed Brian. XP64 is ROCK solid ( based on Win2003 kernel ) and I found good drivers for everything I own. Current setup

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread FORC5
takes about 300 megs for the OS and is way faster without the bloatware. lopaka --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Subject: Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 8:22 AM

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Winterlight
At 09:50 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote: I will switch to Vista once there are no activation issues, and when utilities can strip out all the unnecessary crap to streamline the OS. I use XP64 and a custom Lite version of XP for non 64-bit boxes. XPLite only takes about 300 megs for the OS and is way

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Joe User
Hello Jason, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 11:47:56 AM, you wrote: Well the only reason I can think of to recommend Vista is if your a gamer and want DirectX 10. All the games I currently play are DirectX 9.0c so I have no reason to switch from XP. Are games faster on Vista with DX10? --

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-18 Thread Stan Zaske
Farcry 2 is the only one so far that runs better in DX10 than DX9. http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5Myw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== Joe User wrote: Hello Jason, Thursday, December 18, 2008, 11:47:56 AM, you wrote: Well the only reason I can think of to recommend Vista is if

[H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-17 Thread FORC5
Does Vista in all it's wisdom detect 32/64 bit cpu and install accordingly ? or are there two versions like with XP ? May need to update my server HW for some beta testing with Vista or even xp64. Have xp64 and Vista Ultimate just not sure if it swings both ways or not. :-| Any ideas ? Fp --

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-17 Thread James Boswell
vista has separate install media for 32 and 64 bits the license key determines which version of Vista it is (Home Basic/ Premium/Business/Ultimate) but the media determines the bitness (bittedness?) On 18 Dec 2008, at 00:28, FORC5 wrote: Does Vista in all it's wisdom detect 32/64 bit cpu

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-17 Thread Greg Sevart
] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:28 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Vista Ultimate ? Does Vista in all it's wisdom detect 32/64 bit cpu and install accordingly ? or are there two versions like with XP ? May need to update my server HW for some beta testing

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-17 Thread Bryan Seitz
be available for you to download and/or shipped to you. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:28 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Vista

Re: [H] Vista Ultimate ?

2008-12-17 Thread FORC5
: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:28 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Vista Ultimate ? Does Vista in all it's wisdom detect 32/64 bit cpu and install accordingly

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:29:09PM -0600, Greg Sevart wrote: Been running Vista x64 for about 10 weeks now...it isn't perfect, but the minor tweaks and enhancements make it hard for me to use my work XP machine. I do find it interesting that the maximum rating is 5.9. Some scores are fixed

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:10:49PM -0500, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Boy, you guys are really out there, keeping up on the PC wars. I've lapsed behind, sucking huge hind tit. Oh well, can't win them all! If I could game on OSX I'd dump windows/linux/freebsd on the desktop faster than a hooker

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread Brian Weeden
On 2/27/07, Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, you guys are really out there, keeping up on the PC wars. I've lapsed behind, sucking huge hind tit. Oh well, can't win them all! I am still using an Athlon 64 3000+ and an ATI x800GTO2. Of course both are just a w bit

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread FORC5
no worse then me :'( I am behind the power curve and ready to stall-spin :-[ fp At 11:10 AM 2/27/2007, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with: Boy, you guys are really out there, keeping up on the PC wars. I've lapsed behind, sucking huge hind tit. Oh well, can't win them all! -- Tallyho !

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread FORC5
barton 3200 here with a fx7600 video to tide me over :'( fp At 03:11 PM 2/27/2007, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: On 2/27/07, Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, you guys are really out there, keeping up on the PC wars. I've lapsed behind, sucking huge hind tit. Oh well, can't

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh
At 12:10 PM 2/27/2007, you wrote: Boy, you guys are really out there, keeping up on the PC wars. I've lapsed behind, sucking huge hind tit. Oh well, can't win them all! Well, JRS has got the nicer rig :P Gigabyte 965P-DS3 (F7) Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 3.33GHz Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Kingston Value

RE: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread nobozoz
Hind tit isn't so bad if its huge, eh? _jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:11 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate Boy, you guys are really out there, keeping up

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread DHSinclair
Man, I'll vote for that one! Way behind the curve here. Did this one make the trip? Best, Duncan At 17:14 02/27/2007 -0500, you wrote: no worse then me :'( I am behind the power curve and ready to stall-spin :-[ fp At 11:10 AM 2/27/2007, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with: Boy,

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread DHSinclair
JRS will always have the nicer rig. JRS does homework well. I've watched this be true over the last many years. Best, Duncan At 18:01 02/27/2007 -0500, you wrote: At 12:10 PM 2/27/2007, you wrote: Boy, you guys are really out there, keeping up on the PC wars. I've lapsed behind, sucking

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread JRS
they are ignored. - Original Message From: DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:56:04 PM Subject: Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate JRS will always have the nicer rig. JRS does homework well. I've watched this be true over

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh
At 07:44 PM 2/27/2007, you wrote: LOL Hey, it's the first new one in a few years. Finally retired the Abit IS7 to my bruther to get this one... It only has 74, 500, 320, and 200 gig HD's, but at least I broke the Terabyte barrier.. :) But yeah, 1067 FSB is nice, Core2 Duo seems OK, and

RE: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread Bobby Heid
List Subject: Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate At 07:44 PM 2/27/2007, you wrote: LOL Hey, it's the first new one in a few years. Finally retired the Abit IS7 to my bruther to get this one... It only has 74, 500, 320, and 200 gig HD's, but at least I broke the Terabyte barrier.. :) But yeah, 1067 FSB

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread tmservo
Yes it is Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Bobby Heid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:16:33 To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] VISTA Ultimate On another note, I got a copy of Vista Business for watching

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread JRS
No OC'ing yet, guess I should try some. :) I bought one week too early. The nVidia 8800 GTS 320Mb cards came out like 2 weeks after I went for the DX9 nVidia 7950 with 512 megs of Ram. Oh well. It's waay faster than what I had.:) It still runs nice. :) At 07:44 PM 2/27/2007,

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-27 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
it is if it on the hindside! nobozoz wrote: Hind tit isn't so bad if its huge, eh? _jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:11 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-26 Thread JRS
Mine's doing OK with Vista as well, Used the excuse of Vista coming out to buy my 1st new PC in 2-3 years Intel Badaxe 975 Xpress chipset mobo (D975XBX2) Core2 Duo E6600 CPU w/ the 4 meg cache 2 gigs of OCZ DDRam New Lian Li PC-61 case Mushkin modular 580 watt power supply (love this

RE: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Sevart
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JRS Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:55 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate Mine's doing OK with Vista as well, Used the excuse of Vista coming out to buy my 1st new PC in 2-3 years

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-25 Thread FORC5
I'm using Vista Ultimate on my server only, does a decent job. FTP runs OK. Does it's job well. My only main complaint is I do have SW on my main box I do not care to loose so putting it there for now is not a option. I have not run MS's diagnostic yet though. Some of this stuff may work if I

Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-25 Thread tmservo
To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] VISTA Ultimate I just installed VISTA Ultimate on my computer. My computer is a very simple i945G chipset based mobo with Pentium D 805 @ 3.66Ghz and 2 GB of RAM. Vista runs fairly smooth, and surprisingly Aero Glass is enabled

RE: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-25 Thread Greg Sevart
: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:11 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate Unfortunately, no support for All in Wonder so I doubt I will be switching any time soon. One thing I would like to know is if you are using a Aero supported video card on a primary monitor and a old

RE: [H] VISTA Ultimate

2007-02-25 Thread Winterlight
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:11 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] VISTA Ultimate Unfortunately, no support for All in Wonder so I doubt I will be switching any time soon. One thing I would like