Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-27 Thread Brian Weeden
Where does $50/year come from? You only need to buy the game once. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-27 Thread maccrawj
Some games have addon/expansions like WoW, so chances are you'll get hit again in a year. Even is it every 2 years or not at all moot point, it's still $180/yr in subscription fees plus $50 initial investment. Just as bad as that subscriptions is the micro-purchase sales model! the Sims3, PS3

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-26 Thread Stan Zaske
Just means you pay a monthly fee to play on official servers. That's why Bilzzard makes so much money. Not only do they sell the game but you pay your monthly fee as well to take part in playing it. MMO: Massive Multiplayer Online. Pretty sure that's right anyway. DSinc wrote: I suppose

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-26 Thread Gary Jackson
Yes, that is exactly right. I still play World of Warcraft, and pay my $15 dutifully every month . lol Regards, Gary At 05:30 AM 10/26/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: Just means you pay a monthly fee to play on official servers. That's why Bilzzard makes so much money. Not only do they sell

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-26 Thread Stan Zaske
Cheap entertainment. Gary Jackson wrote: Yes, that is exactly right. I still play World of Warcraft, and pay my $15 dutifully every month . lol Regards, Gary At 05:30 AM 10/26/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: Just means you pay a monthly fee to play on official servers. That's why

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-26 Thread Scott Sipe
:36 AM To: Brian Weeden Subject: Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives Hello Brian, Sunday, October 25, 2009, 9:01:53 AM, you wrote: I played, maxed levels and crafting and quit WoW before Onyxia was beaten. So yeah, I'm old school :) For those that don't know, it's gone SUPER casual. Any idiot can get

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-26 Thread Scott Sipe
I played WoW for a several months early on during the original and then quit. Then I played for a number of months after Burning Crusade came out and then quit. Now I've recently started playing again since Wrath of the Lich King. I gotta say that WotLK has been the most unsatisfying so

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread Joe User
Hello Brian, Saturday, October 24, 2009, 1:36:50 PM, you wrote: I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs. With a toddler in the house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and WoW).

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread Joe User
Hello Brian, Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:16:35 PM, you wrote: Taking our time to work through the entire Temple of Atal'hakkar in WoW with some close friends in one sitting and appreciating the little details the designers put in. Wow, that's old school. That's still one of my favorite

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread Brian Weeden
I played, maxed levels and crafting and quit WoW before Onyxia was beaten. So yeah, I'm old school :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread maccrawj
This where I went around the same time also. Q6600 4870X2 have served well playing Crysis Stalker which I still consider benchmarks for visual beauty coding nightmares. ;) A little over 4TB mix of Seagate Hitachi SATA's and looking to add more since this is also my PS3 Media Server.

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread maccrawj
Only one I'd consider playing is floundering in the beta stage: Stargate Worlds. Guess MGM should of not frakked PTY Lmtd. and backed release of the originally promised stand-alone SG-1 game from 2005! Quake stated MO (not massive) play for free phenomenon the money grubbers have polluted. I

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread Gmail
I do not understand that argument. $15 for on average 60+ hours of fun a month is pretty darn cheap compared to many other firms of entertainment. I would much rather pay that subscription than $50 for a game with 15 hours of game play and no replay value. Or a trip to the movies.

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread Stan Zaske
I'm playing it right now having a blast and not paying a dime either. :-) maccrawj wrote: Only one I'd consider playing is floundering in the beta stage: Stargate Worlds. Guess MGM should of not frakked PTY Lmtd. and backed release of the originally promised stand-alone SG-1 game from

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread Joe User
Hello Brian, Sunday, October 25, 2009, 9:01:53 AM, you wrote: I played, maxed levels and crafting and quit WoW before Onyxia was beaten. So yeah, I'm old school :) For those that don't know, it's gone SUPER casual. Any idiot can get decent gear and be viable if they can press a few buttons.

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread DSinc
I suppose that I am w-a-y out of the norm here. Can someone please 'splain me this concept of subscription for a video game for a PC? Do not believe I am a complete dweeb. I so have a subscription for my weekend newspaper. OR? Might this be close? I an really curious Best, Duncan Gmail

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-25 Thread Naushad, Zulfiqar
AM To: Brian Weeden Subject: Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives Hello Brian, Sunday, October 25, 2009, 9:01:53 AM, you wrote: I played, maxed levels and crafting and quit WoW before Onyxia was beaten. So yeah, I'm old school :) For those that don't know, it's gone SUPER casual. Any idiot can get

[H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7. It seems like the system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk action, you get a substantial delay. For instance, I'll be playing a game, then I jump to email, when I try to drag and drop, there is a delay, I get

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread amartin
Yes. It is annoying. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:25:22 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7. It seems

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Steve Tomporowski
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7. It seems like the system puts it's file manager to sleep, so that if you try to do a disk action, you get a substantial delay. For instance, I'll be playing a game, then I jump to email

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive intensive compared to XP. Better pony up the dough and get a solid state drive with the barefoot controller. LOL Steve Tomporowski wrote: I've noticed this 'problem' on both Vista and Win7. It seems like the system puts it's file manager to sleep,

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users for years now. I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area. Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by. I play most new games

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there are times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008. I consider that to be a dirt cheap price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4 years. I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just fine. The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth.

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
I have something you might be interested in Brian: Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free http://bit.ly/8dUTM Brian Weeden wrote: I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008. I consider that to be a dirt cheap price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs. With a toddler in the house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and WoW). Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread DSinc
Brian, Thanks for the excellent report of your choices and use. I agree that you do need the power you chose. For, me, I have had perfect service from my trio of E8400 C2D's (now 1yr old) that run 24/7. Once I got all the user-caused glitches worked out, these three procs now simply own me! I

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
The recent Tomb Raider games (esp Legend) have been pretty darn good. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:57 PM, DSinc

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
It's my first MMO. After all these years of playing games it took the words Dungeons and Dragons and free to get me to try it. I still play it in single player mode however. Someday I'll take the plunge and join a social group. Probably get eaten alive by the kids in there. LOL Brian Weeden

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Brian Weeden
I didn't playing MMOs because they sucked, quite the opposite. I liked them a bit TOO much, and I just don't have room in my current life for the time commitment they require. i still have some very fond memories. Running a guild in a MUD in college (Dragons, Legends and Lore) and spending days

Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives

2009-10-24 Thread Stan Zaske
You're one of those kids that would probably eat me alive and I didn't say that MMO's suck and heard that you're a new daddy. Congratulations by the way. Child gets a little older: think of the MMO possibilities. You know, after school and sports of course. :-) Brian Weeden wrote: I didn't