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Advantages of Paper

2001-06-05 Thread George Russell
I don't want to seem incredibly Luddite, but there are some things the World Wide Web is not good at, and one of them is permanence. Try for example finding out about Glasgow Haskell from http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk, which was I think the standard URL a few years ago. In 2050 we may not even have

Re: Advantages of Paper

2001-06-05 Thread Alastair David Reid
I find it therefore of concern that many crucial Haskell documents, including the standard and, for example, the various Glasgow Haskell manuals, are only available online. My printed copy of the Haskell 98 report is numbered: YaleU/DCS/RR-1106 Copies can no doubt be obtained from the

Re: Advantages of Paper

2001-06-05 Thread John Peterson
We're not really in a position to mail out bound copies of the Haskell report. We generally distribute our tech reports in electronic form and haven't even been asked for paper copies in years. I've got a few bound Haskell reports that I give to visitors but we don't plan to print any more. It

Re: Advantages of Paper

2001-06-05 Thread George Russell
Alastair David Reid wrote: I find it therefore of concern that many crucial Haskell documents, including the standard and, for example, the various Glasgow Haskell manuals, are only available online. My printed copy of the Haskell 98 report is numbered: YaleU/DCS/RR-1106 [snip]

A pecular algebraic data structure

2001-06-05 Thread Jan Skibinski
I've been working with one pecular algebraic data structure, named Register, which is described in currently upgraded http://www.numeric-quest.com/haskell/QuantumComputer.html. or in gzipped version of the same document

Re: Why is there a space leak here?

2001-06-05 Thread Tom Moertel
Alastair David Reid wrote: Executive summary: David's program has an incredibly subtle space leak in it (or I'm being incredibly dumb). I encourage the honchos (and would be honchos) to have a look. Users of other compilers might give it a shot too. David Bakin wrote: Why is there a

Re: Why is there a space leak here?

2001-06-05 Thread S. Alexander Jacobson
This whole discussion seems strange... Is laziness an operational or a semantic issue? Why can't haskell implementations reduce some expressions to save space? In particular, why can't haskell mark expressions that grow after evaluation, and reduce them if too much space is being consumed. For

Re: Why is there a space leak here?

2001-06-05 Thread Wojciech Moczydlowski, Jr
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Tom Moertel wrote: The reason that foo1 leaks space is because the middle of v grows faster than its head. So taking elements from v causes its in-memory footprint to grow. To see why this is the case, evaluate foo1 by hand: So the problem isn't Hugs but rather the

Re: Why is there a space leak here?

2001-06-05 Thread Tom Moertel
Wojciech Moczydlowski, Jr wrote: How come then that the very program compiled under nhc98 evaluates without any problem, with memory usage below 1M during its execution? My claim was that v (as defined) grew faster than it could be consumed, not that (length (foo1 n)) couldn't be evaluated

Re: Why is there a space leak here?

2001-06-05 Thread Mark Tullsen
Tom, I noticed this post after I had just posted my own response. You have to realize that Alastair Reid is one of the truly great Haskell programmers on planet earth. I'm serious. So, when he says incredibly subtle space leak I wouldn't expect the solution to be simple. As far as I can

Re: Why is there a space leak here?

2001-06-05 Thread Steinitz, Dominic J
I'd love it if someone could write a tutorial paper on space leaks. Even with the explanations that have been provided, I find it difficult to understand why expressions get evaluated in a particular order and why garbage collections happen at a given point. Dominic.

Re: Why is there a space leak here?

2001-06-05 Thread Claus Reinke
Alastair David Reid wrote: Executive summary: David's program has an incredibly subtle space leak in it (or I'm being incredibly dumb). I encourage the honchos (and would be honchos) to have a look. Users of other compilers might give it a shot too. I think there have been several

Re: Why is there a space leak here?

2001-06-05 Thread Mark Tullsen
Tom Moertel wrote: Mark Tullsen wrote: You have to realize that Alastair Reid is one of the truly great Haskell programmers on planet earth. I'm serious. So, when he says incredibly subtle space leak I wouldn't expect the solution to be simple. Whoops. Now don't I feel foolish.