Confused by profiling

2001-09-13 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi all I am confused by the GHC profiling output. I have put some abstracts below to illustrate my confusion. I compiled my code with: HFLAGS=-Wall -package lang -prof -auto-all hmake -ghc main and then ran it with: ./main -t +RTS -p test5.hs Here is some of main.prof:

ghc/HopenGL/cygwin/W2K

2001-09-13 Thread Clifford Beshers
I'm trying to get to the point where I can use ghc and OpenGL under Windows 2000. Unfortunately, I'm lost in a maze of version numbers. I had cygwin-1.3.2 installed, I think, which did not match the 1.3.1 used in the ghc-4.08 package. I tried to install cygwin 1.3.1, but got 1.3.3 instead.

RE: Haskell98 undefinedness

2001-09-13 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
Personally I think this is ok, and it's compatible with the relaxed story about cumulative imports. I don't propose to change this unless there are yells. | So, it's not considered an error if you do something | like | | module A ( B(C), ...some other stuff..., B(D) ) where | ... |

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread kahl
Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: 12 Sep 2001 12:37:25 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze: * Currently HOPS implements only one evaluation strategy, namely leftmost outermost graph rewriting with sharing preservation (without automatic sharing

LOPSTR 2001 - Submission Deadline Extension

2001-09-13 Thread Fabio Fioravanti
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FME 2002: Call for Papers

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Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread Manuel M. T. Chakravarty
Olaf Chitil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Here a short summary by Malcolm and me of the final discussion at the Haskell workshop: I also took a couple of notes which I like to add. John Launchbury and many further people made a plea that the single biggest hindrance to the further spread of

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread S. Alexander Jacobson
Rather than talking about general features of the language that might improve adoption in general, it is more useful to talk about specific features of the language that make it killer in a particular application domain. In his classic book, Crossing the Chasm : Marketing and Selling High-Tech

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread Mark Carroll
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, S. Alexander Jacobson wrote: (snip) As such, I would like to see a focus on making Haskell great for web application and web service development. Some of the the pieces required are application level, some are libraries, and some are language features. Here is my quick

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread C.Reinke
There was the feeling that there is not frequent enough feedback from the Task Forces (eg, FFI Task Force, Library Task Force) to the Haskell community as a whole. Clause Reinke kindly volunteered to collect status reports of Task Forces on a 6-monthly basis and post them to the Haskell

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread Frank Atanassow
Just a quick remark: S. Alexander Jacobson wrote (on 13-09-01 12:40 -0400): As a general matter, the addendum process strikes me as confusing and dangerous. I don't want to have a conversation like: I am using Haskell'98 with Addendum A, C, and E. I'd rather say, I am using Haskell 2001

Re: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-13 Thread Alastair David Reid
Quick reply to just one point (more later, I hope): Also, do these books have good coverage of things like existential types, functional dependencies, other experimental-but-apparently-crucial features that are hard to find documentation for? I consider myself a fairly hardcore

RE: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-13 Thread brk
Thanks, that's very valuable information. It's hard to appreciate the relative utility (as you can see :-)) of different experimental features. It's also confusing that things like exceptions, concurrency, and FFI are labeled 'experimental'. They're so (IMHO) crucial that I find myself saying,

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
On Thursday, 13. September 2001 17:50, Manuel M. T. Chakravarty wrote: [...] Let me reiterate: Gtk+HS as it is today is sufficient for applications requiring a GUI of medium complexity. As far as I see, despite not covering all of GTK+ yet, Gtk+HS already has a wider variety of widgets and

RE: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread brk
In my opinion GTK+ is not that nice to develop Win32 applications because it provides its own look-and-feel which conflicts with the one of Windows. On UNIX-like systems where each desktop environment has its own look-and-feel it does not conflict under GNOME because GNOME is based on

Re: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-13 Thread Lennart Augustsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, that's very valuable information. It's hard to appreciate the relative utility (as you can see :-)) of different experimental features. It's also confusing that things like exceptions, concurrency, and FFI are labeled 'experimental'. They're so (IMHO)

Re: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-13 Thread Jeffrey R Lewis
Lennart Augustsson wrote: I have been writing substantial Haskell programs and I use *NO* experimental features. What I'm currently working on is over 2 lines of Haskell 98. No extensions whatsoever. (It even compiles and runs with all available Haskell implementations.) Granted, I

RE: Application letters at the Haskell workshop: suggestion

2001-09-13 Thread Manuel M. T. Chakravarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Thanks, that's very valuable information. It's hard to appreciate the relative utility (as you can see :-)) of different experimental features. It's also confusing that things like exceptions, concurrency, and FFI are labeled 'experimental'. They're so (IMHO)

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread Manuel M. T. Chakravarty
Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, That's why I think GTK+ should be used mainly to develop applications which are intended to run under GNOME and preferably not to do cross-plattform GUI programming. I think the best solution for the latter thing is to use a library which has

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread Mark Carroll
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Manuel M. T. Chakravarty wrote: (snip) wxWindows is quite C++ centric and AFAIK nobody has made a serious effort at a C++ FFI yet. One of the big advantages (snip) Of course, wxPython also exists - I assume that the emphasis on object orientation is the problem? -- Mark

Re: The future of Haskell discussion

2001-09-13 Thread S. Alexander Jacobson
Out of curiosity, how does GTK+ compare with Fruit? It seems like it would make sense for the standard Haskell GUI also to be functional. -Alex- PS I don't do GUI stuff so I don't really know much. I did read the Fruit paper and it looked interesting. On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Manuel M. T.