RE: badness with -fmax-simplifier-iterations

2003-02-07 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
Thanks; fixed. Simon | -Original Message- | From: Hal Daume III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: 04 February 2003 23:47 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: badness with -fmax-simplifier-iterations | | A few things. First of all, if you're stupid and say: | | ghc ...

O'Haskell

2003-02-07 Thread Steffen Mazanek
Hello. I am toying with the idea of implementing the OHaskell-concepts of Johan Nordlander in the GHC (as a diploma thesis). Simon Marlow adviced me to do some market research in this group and here we go. I am interested in all kinds of comments, advices, scrupulosites... Thanks and

RE: Build error

2003-02-07 Thread Simon Marlow
../../ghc/compiler/ghc-inplace -optc-O -optc-Wall -optc-W -optc-Wstrict-prototypes -optc-Wmissing-prototypes -optc-Wmissing-declarations -optc-Winline -optc-Waggregate-return -optc-Wbad-function-cast -optc-Wcast-align -optc-I../includes -optc-I. -optc-Iparallel -optc-DCOMPILING_RTS

Re: O'Haskell

2003-02-07 Thread Steffen Mazanek
Oh, sorry. I was asked for the link: http://www.math.chalmers.se/~nordland/ohaskell/ Nice greetings, Steffen ___ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users

Re: sockets (ghc-5.04.1)

2003-02-07 Thread Volker Stolz
Am 06. Feb 2003 um 21:53 CET schrieb Peter Thiemann: and then duplicated part of my code. One thing that I found annoying was that the Protocol argument of Network.Socket.socket is not well specified. The type Protocol is abstract, but is a member of class Read. However, the Read syntax is

Re: [OT] Teaching Haskell in High School

2003-02-07 Thread Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
Paul == Paul Hudak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul I can't resist jumping in on this one: Sure :-) Haskell just has some terrible properties when it comes to teaching beginners. Among them are the complex and easy-to-get-wrong syntax, the available programming environments which are OK for

Re: [OT] Teaching Haskell in High School

2003-02-07 Thread Arjan van IJzendoorn
Hello all, Michael Sperber wrote: I really recommend looking at the TeachScheme! curriculum and the How to Design Programs curriculum. Here are two URLs: I believe that the environment students work in is very important and can help them learn languages quicker. And so the TeachScheme

Re: [OT] Teaching Haskell in High School

2003-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
On Friday, 2003-02-07, 12:31, CET, Arjan van IJzendoorn wrote: [...] Yes, that does mean adding type classes, but not the whole machinery. If we support Eq, Ord, Show and Num with a limited number of instances, chapters 1 to 11 of Hudak's book can be used without modification. I just have had

Re: [OT] Teaching Haskell in High School

2003-02-07 Thread Arjan van IJzendoorn
Hello all, Michael Sperber wrote: - With the programming environment, it isn't just a question of being easier to use: in my experience, environments like Hugs (or any Scheme environment other than DrScheme) work for some, but frustrate many beginners because they don't enable them to

Re: [OT] Teaching Haskell in High School

2003-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
On Friday, 2003-02-07, 14:41, CET, Arjan van IJzendoorn wrote: [...] For that reason, Helium has a logging facility built in which sends a server the programs containing errors. Do you tell your students about the existence of this facility? [...] Wolfgang

RE: [OT] Teaching Haskell in High School

2003-02-07 Thread Kevin Millikin
On Friday, February 07, 2003 7:41 AM, Arjan van IJzendoorn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: The quality of the messages, however, is not as good as I would have expected. I am a beginning Scheme programmer ... Then you should have set the language to Beginning Student or Beginning Student with

Re: time since the epoch

2003-02-07 Thread Stefan Karrmann
Keith Wansbrough (Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:46:22PM +): Stefan Karrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A sound base for a Time implementation should use TAI (temps atomique international), c.f. http://cr.yp.to/libtai.html. I disagree; I think UTC is quite sufficient, and will match the

SBLP 2003 - extended deadline

2003-02-07 Thread Lucilia Camarao de Figueiredo
CALL FOR PAPERS SBLP 2003 - 7th Brazilian Symposium on Programming Languages Ouro Preto, MG, Brazil - May 28-30, 2003 http://www.inf.pucminas.br/sblp2003 Extended deadline: February

Re: time since the epoch

2003-02-07 Thread Matthew Donadio
Hi all, I'm jumping into this a bit late, but I have some good info about time. Two sites that I know about that have good tutorials and white papers are http://www.datum.com/res_technical.html http://www.truetime.com/DOCSn/TTreferencematerial.html In particlar, the paper Timing and Time Code

filter and Prelude index in H98 report?

2003-02-07 Thread Antony Courtney
Hi all, Is there any deep reason why filter does not appear in the Index of the Haskell 98 Prelude, found at: http://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/prelude-index.html Thanks, -antony -- Antony Courtney Grad. Student, Dept. of Computer Science, Yale University [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Teaching Haskell in High School

2003-02-07 Thread Arjan van IJzendoorn
Hello again, Kevin suggested: Then you should have set the language to Beginning Student or Beginning Student with List Abbreviations. You're right. That makes the messages much better. I switched to 'Advanced' level because I thought that something was possibly not accepted because it was

FiniteMap performance

2003-02-07 Thread Magnus Lindberg
Hello! I am using the FiniteMap datatype and since Haskell never modifies variables but rather copies them (?) I wonder what the performance of the FiniteMap type is in Haskell. Lookup is of course done in O(log n) but is insertion done in O(n) or O(log n)? For example, does the function

Re: time since the epoch

2003-02-07 Thread Glynn Clements
Matthew Donadio wrote: Pretty much the whole world runs on UTC. All of the common time distribution systems use UTC. Technically, GPS doesn't, but the GPS signal includes the correction to UTC. I understand the argument for using TAI. Maybe internally the libray should use TAI, but

Re: time since the epoch

2003-02-07 Thread Peter Thiemann
SM == Simon Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ha! After playing with this, I discovered that only the seconds were set and all other fields remained untouched. At least in ghc's implementation. Interestingly, TimeDiff derives Eq and Ord, but I'd better not ask for their

RE: Auto generated instance codes through 'deriving'

2003-02-07 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
Title: Auto generated instance codes through 'deriving' Try -ddump-deriv http://haskell.cs.yale.edu/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/options-debugging.html#DUMPING-OUTPUT Simon -Original Message- From: Jong Keun Na [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 February 2003

libDB

2003-02-07 Thread Sengan . Baring-Gould
Has anyone written a binding to the BSD libdb ? Sengan --- There's a limit to all things, and everything that passes its limit destroys itself. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]