Re: [Haskell] Newbie

2013-03-08 Thread Henning Thielemann
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, Dan Lior wrote: Hello, I'm new to Haskell and this is my first post to this forum. A few questions right off the bat: 1) Is this the right place for newbies to post questions about Haskell? 2) Is there a FAQ for Haskell questions? http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/C

Re: [Haskell] Newbie

2013-03-07 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
On 8 March 2013 11:56, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Dan Lior wrote: >> >> 1) Is this the right place for newbies to post questions about Haskell? > > > > This is most a list for announcements; beginn...@haskell.org is better for > these kinds of questions, and haskell-

Re: [Haskell] Newbie

2013-03-07 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Dan Lior wrote: > 1) Is this the right place for newbies to post questions about Haskell? > This is most a list for announcements; beginn...@haskell.org is better for these kinds of questions, and haskell-c...@haskell.org for general discussion. pred :: Int -> I

[Haskell] Newbie

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Lior
Hello, I'm new to Haskell and this is my first post to this forum. A few questions right off the bat: 1) Is this the right place for newbies to post questions about Haskell? 2) Is there a FAQ for Haskell questions? 3) Are there any active Haskell user groups in the Chicago area? A more techn

Re: [Haskell] Newbie help with type-classes

2007-05-11 Thread Derek Elkins
Ryan Ingram wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is better for this type of question. Follow-up is set to it. Here's a test case for the problem I'm having; I'm using runhaskell from ghc v6.6. Problem #1) Without -fallow-undecidable-instances, I get the following error: Constraint is no smaller

Re: [Haskell] Newbie help with type-classes

2007-05-11 Thread Bas van Dijk
Maybe this is not what you want, but you can also put the 'convl' function in the 'ConvertToInt' class. class ConvertToInt a where conv :: a -> Int convl :: [a] -> [Int] With this approach you don't need any language extension. regards, Bas van Dijk On 5/11/07, Ryan Ingram <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Haskell] Newbie help with type-classes

2007-05-11 Thread Bas van Dijk
Add: -fallow-overlapping-instances to your OPTIONS pragma and read about overlapping instances in the GHC User Guide: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/type-extensions.html#instance-overlap regards, Bas van Dijk On 5/11/07, Ryan Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's a

[Haskell] Newbie help with type-classes

2007-05-10 Thread Ryan Ingram
Here's a test case for the problem I'm having; I'm using runhaskell from ghc v6.6. Problem #1) Without -fallow-undecidable-instances, I get the following error: Constraint is no smaller than the instance head in the constraint: ConvertToInt a (Use -fallow-undecidable-instances to permi

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: fix

2007-05-02 Thread David House
On 02/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, could someone please explain why "fix" is necessary here: fix (\f l -> if null l then [] else let (s,e) = break (==' ') l in s:f (drop 1 e)) Source: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Blow_your_mind Because you're writing a rec

[Haskell] Newbie: fix

2007-05-02 Thread phiroc
Hello, could someone please explain why "fix" is necessary here: fix (\f l -> if null l then [] else let (s,e) = break (==' ') l in s:f (drop 1 e)) Source: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Blow_your_mind Thanks. phiroc --- Begin Message --- Hello, could someone please explain why "fix" in

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-28 Thread Udo Stenzel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what are the advantages of haskell over semi-functional programming languages > such as Perl, Common Lisp, etc.? A fundamental building block that is superior in maintainability and reusability to objects and procedures, a type system that is actually of help and not a h

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-28 Thread Robert Daniel Emerson
Dear Phiroc, I am also a newbie to Haskell, but I also must confess having a sort of religious conversion. I also admit that the learning curve for Haskell, and in particular associated theory is steep, and I am only on the fist rung of the ladder. Some of what I say here has been echoed by oth

RE: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-27 Thread Taillefer, Troy (EXP)
elujah ? Troy Taillefer Java chimpanzee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Sylvan Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: haskell@haskell.org Subject: Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Hask

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread Keith Fahlgren
On 4/26/07 10:13 AM, Joe Thornber wrote: > On 26/04/07, Johannes Waldmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > [...] semi-functional programming languages such as Perl [...] >> >> now this is an interesting view ... > > I seem to remember someone writing a book on functio

RE: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread Taillefer, Troy (EXP)
day these components will actually get written. Troy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:48 PM To: haskell@haskell.org Subject: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell? Hello, wh

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread mike clemow
Phiroc, I'm new to these ideas too--especially since my college math training is non-existent. I found the following wikipedia articles particularly illuminating on the topic of side-effects: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side_effect_%28computer_science%29 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refe

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread Rob Hoelz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > what are the advantages of haskell over semi-functional programming > languages such as Perl, Common Lisp, etc.? > > What are the mysterious "side effects" which are avoided by using > Haskell, which everyone talks about? Null pointers? > > Don't you ever g

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
(note to Haskellers: Yeah, I'm handwaving things here, no need to point out counter-examples to my generalisations!) On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We'll do this one first: What are the mysterious "side effects" which are avoided by using Haskell, which everyone talks a

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread Joe Thornber
On 26/04/07, Johannes Waldmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [...] semi-functional programming languages such as Perl [...] now this is an interesting view ... I seem to remember someone writing a book on functional programming in Perl, which seemed odd to me. - Joe _

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread phiroc
If this is interesting then please enlighten a poor, ignorant PERL hacker. Quoting Johannes Waldmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > [...] semi-functional programming languages such as Perl [...] > > now this is an interesting view ... > > __

Re: [Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread Johannes Waldmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] semi-functional programming languages such as Perl [...] now this is an interesting view ... ___ Haskell mailing list Haskell@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell

[Haskell] Newbie: what are the advantages of Haskell?

2007-04-26 Thread phiroc
Hello, what are the advantages of haskell over semi-functional programming languages such as Perl, Common Lisp, etc.? What are the mysterious "side effects" which are avoided by using Haskell, which everyone talks about? Null pointers? Don't you ever get null pointers in Haskell, including when

Re: [Haskell] [newbie]any nice code to read?

2006-12-11 Thread 云杨
oh, sorry, I sent to a wrong mailing list. I will ask for help there, thank you, and sorry for disturb you all. On 12/12/06, Donald Bruce Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: notyycn: > >hello,all, > > I am new to haskell,and have read some tutorial, but I >would like to read some

Re: [Haskell] [newbie]any nice code to read?

2006-12-11 Thread Donald Bruce Stewart
notyycn: > >hello,all, > > I am new to haskell,and have read some tutorial, but I >would like to read some "real" code from "real" haskell >project, I believe this will help me study and use haskell >quickly. > > would anyone please give me some suggestion about >o

[Haskell] [newbie]any nice code to read?

2006-12-11 Thread 云杨
hello,all, I am new to haskell,and have read some tutorial, but I would like to read some "real" code from "real" haskell project, I believe this will help me study and use haskell quickly. would anyone please give me some suggestion about opensource project that a new haskell user should study

Re: [Haskell] Newbie quick questions

2005-10-05 Thread Collin Winter
On 10/4/05, Mike Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may be unfair to ask, but is anybody willing to give an example? > There are great examples for writing factorials. However, that's not really > useful. I'm looking for a real-world example of using the language. You might be interested i

Re: [Haskell] Newbie quick questions

2005-10-05 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
On 10/5/05, Sebastian Sylvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/4/05, Mike Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, all, especially Cale for the detail. > > > > This may be unfair to ask, but is anybody willing to give an example? > > There are great examples for writing factorials. However,

Re: [Haskell] Newbie quick questions

2005-10-05 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
On 10/4/05, Mike Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, all, especially Cale for the detail. > > This may be unfair to ask, but is anybody willing to give an example? > There are great examples for writing factorials. However, that's not really > useful. I'm looking for a real-world example

Re: [Haskell] Newbie quick questions

2005-10-04 Thread Mike Crowe
Thanks, all, especially Cale for the detail. This may be unfair to ask, but is anybody willing to give an example?  There are great examples for writing factorials.  However, that's not really useful.  I'm looking for a real-world example of using the language.  Specifically, the first page of

Re: [Haskell] Newbie quick questions

2005-10-04 Thread Cale Gibbard
I wouldn't really consider any of those a particularly quick question, but I'll give them a shot :) On 04/10/05, Mike Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I ran across Haskell at the Great Win32 Computer Language Shootout. A > friend approached me with a potential large application to

Re: [Haskell] Newbie quick questions

2005-10-04 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 11:31 +0100, Jon Fairbairn wrote: > On 2005-10-04 at 00:01EDT Mike Crowe wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I ran across Haskell at the Great Win32 Computer Language Shootout. A > > friend approached me with a potential large application to develop. The > > idea of a language w

Re: [Haskell] Newbie quick questions

2005-10-04 Thread Jon Fairbairn
On 2005-10-04 at 00:01EDT Mike Crowe wrote: > Hi folks, > > I ran across Haskell at the Great Win32 Computer Language Shootout. A > friend approached me with a potential large application to develop. The > idea of a language which can reduce time to design and make better code > is very intri

[Haskell] Newbie quick questions

2005-10-03 Thread Mike Crowe
Hi folks, I ran across Haskell at the Great Win32 Computer Language Shootout. A friend approached me with a potential large application to develop. The idea of a language which can reduce time to design and make better code is very intriguing. I was looking at prototyping in Python using w

Re: [Haskell] [Newbie] Data structure for Dijkstra's algorithm

2005-02-15 Thread Josef Svenningsson
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:27:51 -0500, robert dockins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Dijkstra's] algorithm relies pretty fundamentally on mutability, which makes > it > a less than wonderful fit for a functional language. If you want to > use this algorithm in particular, I would recommend a mutabl

Re: [Haskell] [Newbie] Data structure for Dijkstra's algorithm

2005-02-15 Thread Pedro Vasconcelos
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:00:17 +0100 RCP-Software <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For input and output I need an appropriate graph representation. It > should be as simple to implement as possible - speed and memory > consumption does not matter. The graph consists of vertices (including > the sourc

Re: [Haskell] [Newbie] Data structure for Dijkstra's algorithm

2005-02-14 Thread ajb
G'day all. Quoting robert dockins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This algorithm relies pretty fundamentally on mutability, which makes it > a less than wonderful fit for a functional language. Right, which makes me wonder if this is the algorithm that you really want. Does it have to be Dijkstra's al

Re: [Haskell] [Newbie] Data structure for Dijkstra's algorithm

2005-02-14 Thread robert dockins
This algorithm relies pretty fundamentally on mutability, which makes it a less than wonderful fit for a functional language. If you want to use this algorithm in particular, I would recommend a mutable array indexed on the vertex pair (u,v). See: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/

[Haskell] [Newbie] Data structure for Dijkstra's algorithm

2005-02-14 Thread RCP-Software
Hi! I am new to functional Programming and need some advice. I want to implement Dijkstra's algorithm for the shortest path problem. The algorithm calculates the shortest path from a single vertex in a directed graph to any other connected vertex ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dijkstra%27s_algo

Re: [Haskell] Newbie : How come that cyclic recursive lists are efficient ?

2005-01-24 Thread Benjamin Franksen
On Monday 24 January 2005 21:47, Francis Girard wrote: > But I can't help thinking that the distinction between "being" a list of > integers and "being" a function that "returns" a list of integers (without > arguments) is not always clear in FP ... since there is not really such a > thing as retur

Re: [Haskell] Newbie : How come that cyclic recursive lists are efficient ?

2005-01-24 Thread Francis Girard
Thank you, I understand the point. But I can't help thinking that the distinction between "being" a list of integers and "being" a function that "returns" a list of integers (without arguments) is not always clear in FP ... since there is not really such a thing as returning a value in declara

Re: [Haskell] Newbie : How come that cyclic recursive lists are efficient ?

2005-01-24 Thread Graham Klyne
Notice that 'hamming' *is* a list of integers, not a function to produce them: hamming :: [Integer] Thus, the "magic" here is that you can define this list as a value, without having to actually evaluate any element until it's needed, either by direct reference from another function, or indirec

Re: [Haskell] Newbie : How come that cyclic recursive lists are efficient ?

2005-01-24 Thread Lennart Augustsson
It doesn't have to be a top level definition, it works anyway. -- Lennart Bruno Abdon wrote: 'hamming', in your code, is a top-level definition. When used three times inside its own definition, it's the same variable being used three times. You don't recompute a variable value in order to r

Re: [Haskell] Newbie : How come that cyclic recursive lists are efficient ?

2005-01-24 Thread Bruno Abdon
'hamming', in your code, is a top-level definition. When used three times inside its own definition, it's the same variable being used three times. You don't recompute a variable value in order to reuse it. As an example, if you do foo :: [Integer] foo = [1,2,3] + [4,5] bar = foo ++ foo ++ foo

[Haskell] Newbie : How come that cyclic recursive lists are efficient ?

2005-01-24 Thread Francis Girard
Hi, The classical Hamming problem have the following solution in Haskell : *** BEGIN SNAP -- hamming.hs -- Merges two infinite lists merge :: (Ord a) => [a] -> [a] -> [a] merge (x:xs)(y:ys) | x == y= x : merge xs ys | x < y= x : merge xs (y:ys) | otherwise = y : merge (x:xs) ys -

Re: [Haskell] Newbie Question about Types

2004-09-06 Thread Graham Klyne
I maybe don't fully grasp your goals here, but this sounds similar to some early problems I ran into with Haskell (coming from comparable background), and here are a couple of comments that _might_ just help: (a) adding a type context to a 'data' declaration seems to be very rarely, if ever, of

[Haskell] Newbie Question about Types

2004-08-27 Thread David Greenberg
Hi, I very recently just came to Haskell from the Java and Perl worlds, so my understanding of Haskell's type system is still a little vague. The tutorial and Google didn't seem to have an answer to my question, so I am hoping someone here might be able to help me. I am writing some code compara

Re: [Haskell] newbie question: variable not in scope: "isSpace"

2004-08-14 Thread Tom Pledger
A.J. Bonnema wrote: If I use isSpace from the hugs interpretor, it works. If I use isSpace from a test.hs file I get the error message: Undefined variable "isSpace" From ghc I get the error message: Variable not in scope: "isSpace" What is wrong? Hugs automatically imports a few extra things as w

[Haskell] newbie question: variable not in scope: "isSpace"

2004-08-14 Thread A.J. Bonnema
If I use isSpace from the hugs interpretor, it works. If I use isSpace from a test.hs file I get the error message: Undefined variable "isSpace" From ghc I get the error message: Variable not in scope: "isSpace" What is wrong? Guus. -- A.J. Bonnema, Leiden The Netherlands, user #328198 (Linux Count

[Haskell] newbie question

2004-02-09 Thread Lee Render
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Haskell help for Haskell newbie.

1995-06-26 Thread Alain M. Gaudrault
I've only recently started dabbling in Haskell, and functional programming in general, and am having a few problems, one particular to Haskell as a functional language, the other with Haskell's type classes. Just in case it matters, I'm using "interactive Haskell B. version 0.999.7 SPARC