Re: dataflow rewriting engine

2008-08-26 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
Has there been any thought about working with the LLVM project? I didn't find anything on the wiki along those lines. Thanks, Deborah On Aug 26, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Don Stewart wrote: I think we're all rather excited about seeing this stuff land. What's the expected timeline, wrt. ghc 6.10's

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Valid Haskell characters

2008-08-25 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
You can't determine Unicode character properties by analyzing the names of the characters. Read chapter 4 of the standard: http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.0.0/ch04.pdf and get the property values here: http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/DerivedCoreProperties.txt It sounds like

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Valid Haskell characters

2008-08-25 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
Sm = Symbol, math Sc = Symbol, currency Sk = Symbol, modifier So = Symbol, other Zs = Separator, space Zl = Separator, line Zp = Separator, paragraph Cc = Other, control Cf = Other, format Cs = Other, surrogate Co = Other, private use Cn = Other, not assigned (including noncharacters) Deborah

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Valid Haskell characters

2008-08-25 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
All characters with general category Lu have the property Uppercase, but the converse is not true. Deborah On Aug 25, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Richard A. O'Keefe wrote: On 26 Aug 2008, at 1:31 pm, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: You can't determine Unicode character properties by analyzing the names

6.8.3: make framework-pkg doesn't work

2008-06-15 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I tried building 6.8.3, and just make worked, but when I tried make framework-pkg I got stuff like this: com.apple.tools.info-plist-utility /Users/chak/Code/ghc/ distrib/MacOS/Info copy.plist -expandbuildsettings -o /Users/debbie/

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: Topkata

2008-06-14 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Jun 14, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Don Stewart wrote: tom.davie: In the mean time -- who knows enough to make ghc target ARM, and get this to link against the iPhone libraries? This would be quite a coup if it could be made to run there! I'd be interested. We should start a wiki page for

Re: readline problems building GHC on Mac OS X (was: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: ANNOUNCE: GHC version 6.8.2)

2007-12-21 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Thorkil Naur wrote: 1. Which readline do we use? GNU readline, of course. As opposed to the readline installed as /usr/include/readline/*.h and /usr/lib/libreadline.dylib on our PPC Mac OS X machines which are said to be (and can even be observed to be)

Haddock won't build on 6.8.1

2007-12-17 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I see this: $ runhaskell ./Setup.lhs build Preprocessing executables for haddock-0.8... shift/reduce conflicts: 5 Building haddock-0.8... src/Main.hs:49:7: Could not find module `System.Directory': it is a member of package directory-1.0.0.0, which is hidden Any ideas? Thanks,

Re: You can now register a trac user for yourself

2007-11-22 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I stupidly missed the make sure you are logged out part, and now I can't log in to the account I created. :-/ Any suggestions? When I log in it just logs me in as guest without any interaction. Deborah On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:38 AM, Ian Lynagh wrote: Hi all, It is now possible to register

Re: You can now register a trac user for yourself

2007-11-22 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
browsers/OSes. Hope that helps, -Judah On Nov 22, 2007 10:41 AM, Deborah Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stupidly missed the make sure you are logged out part, and now I can't log in to the account I created. :-/ Any suggestions? When I log in it just logs me in as guest without any

Re: GHC 6.8.1 on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)

2007-11-19 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
If you want to get the path to the main executable on Mac OS X, use _NSGetExecutablePath. See: man 3 dyld Deborah On Nov 19, 2007, at 4:07 AM, Christian Maeder wrote: An additional sanity check of topdir makes sense then. Christian Alfonso Acosta wrote: Simon, as usual, is right. It's

Re: GHC 6.8.1 on Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)

2007-11-15 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Nov 6, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: I wasn't expecting any backwards compatibility from Leopard-built software to Tiger, but then I am also a Mac-noob and maybe there are ways to achieve that that I don't know of. Any suggestions? Sorry, I missed this the first time

Re: GHC 6.8.1 on powerpc OS X 10.5

2007-11-15 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I asked internally at Apple about this and got the following response: obvious symptom: stage2 compiler segfaults, gdb reports: Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x8fe0100c in __dyld__dyld_start () Ignore that. `continue` to actually run the program and get to the

Re: Missing _environ while compiling 6.8.1 on Leopard

2007-11-09 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I'm seeing this, too. An fgrep of /usr/include for environ picked up this: /usr/include/X11/Xw32defs.h:#define environ _environ Is there any reason this X11 header would get included? That would mess up this in HsBase.h: /* ToDo: write a feature test that doesn't assume 'environ' to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: PROPOSAL: New efficient Unicode string library.

2007-10-02 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 2, 2007, at 5:11 AM, ChrisK wrote: Deborah Goldsmith wrote: UTF-16 is the native encoding used for Cocoa, Java, ICU, and Carbon, and is what appears in the APIs for all of them. UTF-16 is also what's stored in the volume catalog on Mac disks. UTF-8 is only used in BSD APIs

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: PROPOSAL: New efficient Unicode string library.

2007-10-02 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 2, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Jonathan Cast wrote: I would like to, again, strongly argue against sacrificing compatibility with Linux/BSD/etc. for the sake of compatibility with OS X or Windows. FFI bindings have to convert data formats in any case; Haskell shouldn't gratuitously break Linux

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: PROPOSAL: New efficient Unicode string library.

2007-10-02 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 2, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Twan van Laarhoven wrote: Lots of people wrote: I want a UTF-8 bikeshed! No, I want a UTF-16 bikeshed! What the heck does it matter what encoding the library uses internally? I expect the interface to be something like (from my own CompactString library):

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: PROPOSAL: New efficient Unicode string library.

2007-10-01 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
Sorry for the long delay, work has been really busy... On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:25 PM, Aaron Denney wrote: On 2007-09-27, Aaron Denney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, not so much. As Duncan mentioned, it's a matter of what the most common case is. UTF-16 is effectively fixed-width for the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: PROPOSAL: New efficient Unicode string library.

2007-09-26 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Aaron Denney wrote: UTF-16 has no advantage over UTF-8 in this respect, because of surrogate pairs and combining characters. Good point. Well, not so much. As Duncan mentioned, it's a matter of what the most common case is. UTF-16 is effectively fixed-width

Re: [Haskell-cafe] PROPOSAL: New efficient Unicode string library.

2007-09-25 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I'll look over the proposal more carefully when I get time, but the most important issue is to not let the storage type leak into the interface. From an implementation point of view, UTF-16 is the most efficient representation for processing Unicode. It's the native Unicode

Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Harpy -- run-time code generation library

2007-06-12 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Jun 12, 2007, at 1:52 AM, Martin Grabmueller wrote: LLVM is indeed interesting, but has several drawbacks: - written in C++ (we don't have experience in interfacing Haskell and C++) You'd have to write a C wrapper, or generate the LLVM intermediate language directly from Haskell. -

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-30 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On May 30, 2007, at 2:24 AM, Christian Maeder wrote: Deborah Goldsmith schrieb: OK, I was able to build 6.6.1 successfully on 10.4 (Intel Core Duo) with both the standard configuration and with SplitObjs = NO. The build was done with the same binary 6.6.1 release, GMP, and GNU readline

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-25 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
). The messages about .dSYM are due to a change in the default debugging file format for 10.5. I can't say any more than that. Is there anything else you would like me to try? Thanks, Deborah On May 25, 2007, at 1:48 AM, Christian Maeder wrote: Deborah Goldsmith schrieb: I'm also going to try building

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-23 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On May 23, 2007, at 2:08 AM, Simon Marlow wrote: Deborah Goldsmith wrote: On May 22, 2007, at 1:59 AM, Christian Maeder wrote: What are you trying to achieve? Did you compile parts with ghc-6.6 and ghc-6.6.1? (That may explain the crash.) If you have installed my binary distribution you

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-23 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On May 23, 2007, at 2:08 AM, Simon Marlow wrote: One possibility is that if you compiled GHC via C (I believe this is still the default in 6.6.1), then changes in the gcc shipped with 10.5 might be causing problems. You might get further by adding SRC_HC_OPTS = -O -fasm GhcStage1HcOpts

Re: GHC 6.7 on OS X - Readline error

2007-05-23 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
Did you point configure at where your readline library is installed, as discussed on the below wiki page? http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Building/MacOSX Deborah On May 23, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Philip Weaver wrote: Hello all, My first email to this list, so I apologize if I don't

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-18 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
- 0x94e75fed libgcc_s.1.dylib ??? (???) 1b0a4147d838c7cdc644818e0d15ec25 /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib 0x - 0x1780 libSystem.B.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/ libSystem.B.dylib Any suggestions for how to proceed at this point? Thanks, Deborah On May 17, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-18 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
- 0x1780 libSystem.B.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/ libSystem.B.dylib Deborah On May 18, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: Here is more detailed crash information, FWIW: Process: ghc-6.6.1 [37476] Path:/Volumes/Totoro/source/ghc-6.6.1/compiler/stage1/ ghc-6.6.1

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-17 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
] Error 2 I'll be happy to do any other investigation anyone suggests. Thanks, Deborah On May 8, 2007, at 2:29 AM, Simon Marlow wrote: Deborah Goldsmith wrote: Actually, I'm not sure that's what's going on. The unresolved symbol error is: ../../compiler/ghc-inplace -H16m -O -fglasgow-exts -cpp

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-07 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On May 7, 2007, at 6:04 AM, Simon Marlow wrote: Deborah Goldsmith wrote: I believe what's going on here is that strerror has been changed for better Unix conformance, under the control of the __DARWIN_UNIX03 preprocessor flag. This is something you'll see in 10.4.x too. Here's an excerpt

Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-04 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
of this problem. If it's on our side we'd like to fix it, and if it's on your side we'd like to help you be ready for Leopard. Thanks, Deborah Goldsmith Internationalization, Unicode liaison Apple Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Glasgow-haskell-bugs

Re: Build failures on Mac OS X 10.5

2007-05-04 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
the projects to work when the new version comes out. :-) If you can think of something to try I'll be happy to try it for you and report back. Thanks, Deborah On May 4, 2007, at 5:43 AM, Malcolm Wallace wrote: Deborah Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /tmp/ghc78351_0/ghc78351_0.split__108

Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Data.CompactString 0.1 - my attempt at a Unicode ByteString

2007-02-09 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 17:01 -0800, John Meacham wrote: UCS-2 is a disaster in every way. someone had to say it. :) UCS-2 has been deprecated for many years. everything should be ascii, utf8 or ucs-4 or migrating to it. UCS-4 has also been deprecated for many years. The main forms of

Re: OpengGL lockup using GHC 6.6 on Intel Mac

2006-12-01 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I can reproduce this with ghc-6.6 built from source as well. I sampled ghc while it was stuck like this, and it looks like it's trying to open a GUI event loop (not surprising if it's opening a window). It looks like something about that is not working. Unfortunately, the Intel binary

Re: OpengGL lockup using GHC 6.6 on Intel Mac

2006-12-01 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
This also fails in Hugs (crashes rather than hangs), so it looks like it's a problem with the GLUT binding on Mac OS X Intel rather than something specific to GHC. I'll see if I can find a PPC machine to try it on also. Deborah On Dec 1, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: I can

Re: OpengGL lockup using GHC 6.6 on Intel Mac

2006-12-01 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
It fails on PowerPC too, using the standard PPC distribution. Deborah On Dec 1, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: This also fails in Hugs (crashes rather than hangs), so it looks like it's a problem with the GLUT binding on Mac OS X Intel rather than something specific to GHC

Re: OpengGL lockup using GHC 6.6 on Intel Mac

2006-12-01 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I can get this to work if I compile it with ghc, rather than try to run it with ghci or hugs. ghc --make Alpha3D.hs ./Alpha3D works fine with no hangs. Deborah On Dec 1, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: It fails on PowerPC too, using the standard PPC distribution. Deborah

Re: Problem running X11 on PPC Mac

2006-11-17 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
the problem by launching ghci with DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH set to include the X11 shared library directory. Deborah On Nov 16, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: There are some notes on the Wiki: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/X86OSXGhc that may be relevant. I know

Re: Problem running X11 on PPC Mac

2006-11-16 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
There are some notes on the Wiki: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/X86OSXGhc that may be relevant. I know there are problems with the Intel binary distribution for OpenGL, but the PPC distribution should work... Deborah On Nov 15, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Melissa Chase wrote: I

Re: Problem running X11 on PPC Mac

2006-11-15 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Nov 15, 2006, at 6:14 AM, Christian Maeder wrote: Gregory Wright schrieb: /opt/local/lib/ghc-6.6/HSX11_cbits.o: unknown symbol `_printf $LDBLStub' I think I remember seeing something like this. I'll look into it some more. That's a gcc problem. I think, HSX11_cbits.o should be built

Re: Problem running X11 on PPC Mac

2006-11-05 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
This problem pops up sometimes for all sorts of open source software (try Googling _printf$LDBLStub), and can be due to mixing modules compiled by gcc 3.3 and gcc 4.0, and/or due to failure to link with - lSystemStubs. I've had good luck using X11 with GHC if I launch it first, and run

Re: Bad control characters in GHCi 6.6 (Mac OS X PPC)

2006-11-03 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 30, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: I think I have this partially figured out. The following patch to libraries/readline/configure.ac seems to do the trick for Darwin: --- configure.ac.save 2006-10-10 12:09:04.0 -0700 +++ configure.ac2006-11-02 17:32

Re: OpenGL failing with Mac Intel 6.6 distribution

2006-10-30 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 30, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: Since the files are not in the distribution itself, they can hardly be installed. :-) It looks like the Mac OS X Intel distribution has a problem. I'll check the PPC distribution later to see if it has the same problem. I checked

Re: Bad control characters in GHCi 6.6 (Mac OS X PPC)

2006-10-30 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Björn Buckwalter wrote: On 10/19/06, Simon Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See this page that I just created: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Building/MacOSX I tried these instructions, first by using my existing (darwinports) readline in /opt/local,

OpenGL failing with Mac Intel 6.6 distribution

2006-10-27 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
I'm attempting to build frag on Mac OS X Intel with the 6.6 distribution, and I hit the following: /tmp/ghc25850_0/ghc25850_0.hc:5:22: error: HsOpenGL.h: No such file or directory A comparison of the C include directories for 6.6 and a recent 6.5 build gives: $ diff -r

Re: [Haskell] Re: Haskell Weekly News: September 27, 2006

2006-10-23 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 20, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Andy Adams-Moran wrote: Just an update: I just added slides from Howard Mansell (Credit Suisse) and Rishiyur Nikhil (BlueSpec). That URL again is: http://www.galois.com/cufp The BlueSpec link is broken. Thanks, Deborah

Re: ghc-6.6 mac intel binary bundle

2006-10-16 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 16, 2006, at 9:16 AM, Rodney D Price wrote: bunzip2 ghc-6.6-i386-apple-darwin.tar.bz2 tar -xvf ghc-6.6-i386-apple-darwin.tar These can be combined in one step: tar -xfvj ghc-6.6-i386-apple-darwin.tar.bz2 Deborah ___ Glasgow-haskell-users

Re: ghc-6.6 mac intel binary bundle

2006-10-14 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Oct 13, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Adam Megacz wrote: I'm grateful to whoever prepared the binary bundle for ghc-6.6 on MacOS/Intel, but the instructions for installing it are missing/wrong. In particular, make install doesn't do much, and the only binary in the bundle called ghc appears to need

Problem with ghc-6.5.20061008 on Mac OS X Intel

2006-10-09 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
Hi, I was able to build this release using the 20060915 Intel build that's available, on 10.4.8. ghci seems to work OK (except for Readline), but an attempt to compile gives: $ ghc example25.hs /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _mtlzm1zi0_ControlziMonadziState_evalStateT_closure

Re: Problem with ghc-6.5.20061008 on Mac OS X Intel

2006-10-09 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
Thanks, Spencer Janssen already set me straight. It was indeed the lack of --package mtl. I'm pretty sure I didn't have that before, but my memory could be faulty. Thanks again, Deborah On Oct 9, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Ian Lynagh wrote: On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:42:14PM -0700, Deborah