On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 22:53, Johan Tibell johan.tib...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
To ease my maintenance burden, I've moved the network package repo to:
http://github.com/haskell/network
Patches are accepted either in the git mbox format, as normal (diff)
patch files, or as GitHub pull
On 28 October 2010 03:41, Victor Oliveira rhapso...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cafe,
I really liked the new colors of haskell theme, but...
Is really red a good color for links? At least for me, red links looks like
broken or already visited ones.
And the worst is hackage docs. It is really eye
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Done
chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 28 October 2010 03:41, Victor Oliveira rhapso...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cafe,
I really liked the new colors of haskell theme, but...
Is really red a good color for links? At least for me, red links looks like
On 27.10.2010 13:16, Andy Stewart wrote:
Christopher Donechrisd...@googlemail.com writes:
On 27 October 2010 10:13, Dmitry V'yalakam...@gmail.com wrote:
While ago I had a question about opening the url in the default browser from
haskell program. I didn't get any immediate answers so I
Antoine Latter aslat...@gmail.com writes:
I have posted to this list for over 3 years now and until lately it was an
enlightening experience. The responses to my questions have usually been
helpful and friendly.
Right - in most cases, the Haskell community is fanatically non-hostile.
At least
Hi haskellers.
Reading through the Haskell Prime suggestions, one that caught my eye is the
CompositionAsDot issue.
I'm especially thinking of the Pro issue:
* Paves the way for using . as the selection operator in improved record or
module systems
I think I recognize this issue from common
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 23:09, Andrew Coppin
andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 27/10/2010 05:00 PM, John Lato wrote:
I am somewhat surprised that all capabilities must be ready for GC; I
thought with the parallel GC that wouldn't be necessary. But I don't know
much about GC
On 28 October 2010 10:15, Alexander Kjeldaas
alexander.kjeld...@gmail.com wrote:
I think I recognize this issue from common lisp. Basically the code becomes
verbose because accessor functions usually need to redundantly encode the
name of the module or struct in its name. The alternative is
From: Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 22:53, Johan Tibell johan.tib...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
To ease my maintenance burden, I've moved the network package repo to:
  http://github.com/haskell/network
Patches are accepted either in the git mbox
Dmitry V'yal akam...@gmail.com writes:
On 27.10.2010 13:16, Andy Stewart wrote:
Christopher Donechrisd...@googlemail.com writes:
On 27 October 2010 10:13, Dmitry V'yalakam...@gmail.com wrote:
While ago I had a question about opening the url in the default browser
from
haskell program. I
Thank you for your rich responses.
Indeed I think I miss some thinks in my DSL, that would make things easier
to deal with lists and first class functions.
I don't really know what for now.
Perhaps a List Constructor? Or a constructor on functions like yours Ryan?
EAp :: Exp ref (a - b) - Exp ref
On 28/10/2010 10:15, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote:
Hi haskellers.
Reading through the Haskell Prime suggestions, one that caught my eye is the
CompositionAsDot issue.
I'm especially thinking of the Pro issue:
* Paves the way for using . as the selection operator in improved record or
module
Maybe we can keep at least the docs without red links. It's very eye tiring to
read. One option is to keep the links black with :hover red.
[]s
Victor
On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Michael Snoyman wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Done
chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 28
Hi café,
I found myself in need of a source manipulation suite for Java code. A
hackage search turned up nothing, so I wrote one:
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/language-java
I'm sure there are a number of bugs waiting to be discovered, my own
testing hasn't been overly extensive. I'm
I'm sure there are a number of bugs waiting to be discovered, my own
testing hasn't been overly extensive. I'm setting up a trac, will
follow up with its location once it's up.
http://trac.haskell.org/language-java
Cheers,
/Niklas
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if I could move to darcs and preserve history I would.
Search for git fastexport and darcs-fastconvert.
Regards,
Malcolm
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Maybe we can keep at least the docs without red links.
Pick the Classic style in the style menu. It will remember your
choice.
Sebastian
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Martijn Schrage mart...@oblomov.com wrote:
On 27-10-10 16:20, Victor Nazarov wrote:
Very cool. I'll incorporate your changes, If you don't mind.
Not at all.
However, I have some minor remarks.
You shouldn't override hscall function, or you may break partial
I think you would love to have a look at AwesomePrelude[1] or a fork
of AwesomePrelude using associated types[2]
Some more background information by Tom Lokhorst [3][4].
[1] http://github.com/tomlokhorst/AwesomePrelude
[2] http://github.com/urso/AwesomePrelude
[3]
This is really cool.
The blog post [3] finally explained to me why I had so much difficulties
implementing the Equal constructor ;)
I shared this in a previous thread:
http://osdir.com/ml/haskell-cafe@haskell.org/2010-06/msg00369.html
Maybe latter I'll shift to a class type based DSL. They seem
Hi
I've just installed cabal-install (just as a user: I am nowhere
near root) on our unix server at work. That went fine.
Clearly, the sensible thing to do next is get hold of an up-to-date
package list. So, I tried
co...@cafe:~$ cabal update
Downloading the latest package list from
Thanks for your responses.
Of course I already test every pure parts of my program easily.
For now, user input is treated in 2 different ways:
- direct IO with hgetLine and like functions (blocking)
- the same but I directly push the strings on a TChan for another thread to
treat them (not
2010-10-28 12:09, Dupont Corentin skrev:
I'm also looking at the Atom's DSL to get inspiration.
Something I don't understand in it is that it has two languages, on typed:
data E a where
VRef :: V a - E a
Const:: a - E a
Cast :: (NumE a, NumE b) = E a -
On Thursday 28 October 2010 15:08:09, Conor McBride wrote:
So I poked about a bit, and I see it's a known issue. As a user, I'm
wondering what to do.
Try with HTTP-4000.0.9 instead of 4000.0.7?
Just now,
wget http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/00-index.tar.gz
is chugging away
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:12 AM, John Smith volderm...@hotmail.com wrote:
On 28/10/2010 10:15, Alexander Kjeldaas wrote:
Hi haskellers.
Reading through the Haskell Prime suggestions, one that caught my eye is
the CompositionAsDot issue.
I'm especially thinking of the Pro issue:
* Paves
To be fair to the Haddock designer, red links are common these days.
Here's two examples (among many):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/
http://www.slate.com/
In the second case the site uses blue, black *and* red links to
distinguish different types of content. They are all in bold and
underline when
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote:
If I, as the developer of the FOO Haskell package, want to move to use
github, can I get a source repo under that organisation as well?
I'm asking since I am considering taking some of my packages from
patch-tag to
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:41 AM, John Lato jwl...@gmail.com wrote:
Similarly, what's the remit of the Haskell organization on github? Is the
intention to be an umbrella for any haskell package, or more restricted? I
have the same question as Magnus (although in my case I took over something
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 15:58, Johan Tibell johan.tib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote:
If I, as the developer of the FOO Haskell package, want to move to use
github, can I get a source repo under that organisation as well?
I'm
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote:
Fair enough. Do you have enough buy-in to make sure that the github
organisation becomes the best location for *all* HP packages?
That is, can I stop going to Hackage to find the home for HP packages?
Probably not. I
Hi again
This is what happens when you write actual for-users for-running
programs, I guess. It's been a while...
I've been writing some software with Network.CGI etc, which we
run on the deparmental web server for my students to use. But
we just had a bit of an upgrade on the system, and now
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.orgwrote:
Fair enough. Do you have enough buy-in to make sure that the github
organisation becomes the best location for *all* HP packages?
That is, can I stop going to Hackage to find the home for HP packages?
That's never
Conor McBride wrote:
Is there some way I can get some more static linking to happen?
I did poke about online a bit and found some remarks to the effect
that GHC got so much more portable after switching to the dynamic
libffi. That sounds great, but tough luck for me.
So, being both
On 28/10/2010 09:25 AM, Erik Hesselink wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 23:09, Andrew Coppin
andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote:
GHC has a _parallel_ GC implementation, meaning that the GC event runs in
parallel on several cores. But it does not (yet) have _concurrent_ GC,
meaning that a GC event
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Dupont Corentin
corentin.dup...@gmail.com wrote:
EAp :: Exp ref (a - b) - Exp ref a - Exp ref b
It's from which DSL? It is accessible on the net?
It's my own, just written off the top of my head as an example.
Accessible on the net: yes, it's in your email.
Sittampalam, Ganesh ganesh.sittampa...@credit-suisse.com writes:
Have you tried passing -optl-static to ghc (which causes -static to be
passed to ld)?
It used to be: -optl-static -optl-pthread
But it doesn't seem to work anymore on my install.
% ./a.out
a.out:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 19:06, Andrew Coppin
andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 28/10/2010 09:25 AM, Erik Hesselink wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 23:09, Andrew Coppin
andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote:
GHC has a _parallel_ GC implementation, meaning that the GC event runs in
parallel
Today I uploaded a package to Hackage, and rediscovered something that
you already know: I'm an idiot.
More specifically, I copied the Cabal description from another package
and then updated all the fields. Except that I forgot to update one. And
now I have a package which I've erroneously
On 28/10/2010 12:30 PM, Sebastian Fischer wrote:
Maybe we can keep at least the docs without red links.
Pick the Classic style in the style menu. It will remember your choice.
Yes, at least with new Haddock you can *change* the style without having
to actually patch (and recompile) Haddock
On 10/28/10 12:34 PM, Andrew Coppin wrote:
More specifically, I copied the Cabal description from another package
and then updated all the fields. Except that I forgot to update one.
And now I have a package which I've erroneously placed in completely
the wrong category.
I am glad to hear that
gcross:
On 10/28/10 12:34 PM, Andrew Coppin wrote:
More specifically, I copied the Cabal description from another package
and then updated all the fields. Except that I forgot to update one.
And now I have a package which I've erroneously placed in completely
the wrong category.
I am
On 28 October 2010 20:59, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
Status of Infrastructure questions like this are best asked on the
Haskell Reddit.
[SNIP]
P.S. I encourage people to use the online forums: Haskell Reddit and Stack
Overflow, as a lot of the question-answering activity has shifted
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 22:44:04 +0200, Stephen Tetley
stephen.tet...@gmail.com wrote:
P.S. I encourage people to use the online forums: Haskell Reddit and
Stack
Overflow, as a lot of the question-answering activity has shifted there
now, away from -cafe@
Err, Why?
Having to track three places
stephen.tetley:
On 28 October 2010 20:59, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
Status of Infrastructure questions like this are best asked on the
Haskell Reddit.
[SNIP]
P.S. I encourage people to use the online forums: Haskell Reddit and Stack
Overflow, as a lot of the
On Thursday 28 October 2010 22:44:04, Stephen Tetley wrote:
On 28 October 2010 20:59, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
Status of Infrastructure questions like this are best asked on the
Haskell Reddit.
[SNIP]
P.S. I encourage people to use the online forums: Haskell Reddit and
Stack
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:34, Andrew Coppin
andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote:
Today I uploaded a package to Hackage, and rediscovered something that you
already know: I'm an idiot.
More specifically, I copied the Cabal description from another package and
then updated all the fields. Except
On 10/27/2010 10:08 AM, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Dear Malcolm,
since there is no mail client library even after 10+ years I suggest to
rethink the approach, because frankly, it's not working.
Why do you keep suggesting this?
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/WashNGo
There is no need for a
On 10/27/2010 11:55 AM, Ketil Malde wrote:
What does essential mean? Something a hypothetical dictator wants,
but nobody else? For surely, if your email library was so essential,
it'd be included among the hundreds of libraries on Hackage? Perhaps it
is a lot less important than you think?
On 10/27/2010 01:22 PM, Donn Cave wrote:
Don't know, but probably challenging enough to make it worth challenging
the assumption that Python now has a good email library.
From a cursory look at the 3.0 library documentation, it looks to
me like IMAP support still means the old imaplib module.
On 28/10/10 17:14, Bryan O'Sullivan wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.orgwrote:
Fair enough. Do you have enough buy-in to make sure that the github
organisation becomes the best location for *all* HP packages?
That is, can I stop going to Hackage to
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:05 PM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote:
On 10/27/2010 01:22 PM, Donn Cave wrote:
Don't know, but probably challenging enough to make it worth challenging
the assumption that Python now has a good email library.
From a cursory look at the 3.0 library
Dear John,
Am 28.10.10 23:57, schrieb John Goerzen:
On 10/27/2010 10:08 AM, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Dear Malcolm,
since there is no mail client library even after 10+ years I suggest to
rethink the approach, because frankly, it's not working.
Why do you keep suggesting this?
On 10/28/2010 05:44 PM, Günther Schmidt wrote:
There is no need for a mail client library on many platforms. Just
pipe the data to /usr/sbin/sendmail and poof. Done.
That would work well for sending (on Unix), but not for receiving.
Quite true. For receiving, we have tools like fetchmail,
On 28 October 2010 16:48, Kevin Jardine kevinjard...@gmail.com wrote:
To be fair to the Haddock designer, red links are common these days.
Here's two examples (among many):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/
http://www.slate.com/
In the second case the site uses blue, black *and* red links to
It's working just fine. I've never wanted a mail client library. :)
-- Lennart
2010/10/27 Günther Schmidt gue.schm...@web.de:
Dear Malcolm,
since there is no mail client library even after 10+ years I suggest to
rethink the approach, because frankly, it's not working.
Günther
On 10/27/10 1:13 AM, Dmitry V'yal wrote:
Code I wrote works quite well for my purposes and I copied it into
several my programs. In order to make maintenance easier I recently
thought about uploading it to hackage. But given a wast amount of
half-dead packages with intersecting functionality
Hi,
thanks to all participants for the funny meeting! I had a lot of fun and
I'm looking forward to see you again.
Best,
Daniel
Sönke Hahn schrieb:
Hi all!
There will be an informal Haskell meeting in Berlin.
Date: Thursday, October 28th
Time: from 20:00
Location: c-base, Rungestrasse
Dear John,
Am 29.10.10 01:23, schrieb John Goerzen:
On 10/28/2010 05:44 PM, Günther Schmidt wrote:
There is no need for a mail client library on many platforms. Just
pipe the data to /usr/sbin/sendmail and poof. Done.
That would work well for sending (on Unix), but not for receiving.
Hello Lennart,
Am 29.10.10 01:44, schrieb Lennart Augustsson:
It's working just fine. I've never wanted a mail client library. :)
Yes, that is wonderful, I'm really happy for you :P
-- Lennart
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There is this one posters who likes to repeatedly point out how none of his
programs ever needed email, so how could it be a problem then. Well good for
him, but in my experience it's needed.
This is the main issue I think people had with your original posts. You say
good for him, but I need
I am happy to announce fundata1 -- the largest-ever program per RAM allocation
in Haskell, originally implemented in Clojure and then OCaml and Haskell for
social network modeling.
http://github.com/alexy/fundata1
It has now become the first large-scale social networking benchmark with a
Great stuff! I have an improvements to HashMaps that I'm working on
that will hopefully work well here.
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On 29 October 2010 07:53, Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2010 22:44:04, Stephen Tetley wrote:
On 28 October 2010 20:59, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
Status of Infrastructure questions like this are best asked on the
Haskell Reddit.
[SNIP]
On 10/28/2010 07:48 PM, Daniel Peebles wrote:
Would anyone be interested in a project for a full-featured mail
library? I don't think I'm capable of writing the whole thing
myself, but I've started a github project at URL and would be happy
to collaborate in IRC channel #channel
Dear John,
The key point is: you haven't paid any of us for this, and you have
nothing even close to some sort of support contract. I perceive a
sense of entitlement on your part that people owe you no-cost coding.
Would you please stop perceiving this then? Because no I don't. I won't
deny
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Andrew Coppin
andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 28/10/2010 12:30 PM, Sebastian Fischer wrote:
Maybe we can keep at least the docs without red links.
Pick the Classic style in the style menu. It will remember your choice.
Yes, at least with new Haddock
On 10/28/10 10:42 AM, Ben Millwood wrote:
Here's the wiki page:
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/haskell-prime/wiki/CompositionAsDot
Personally I think function composition is what Haskell is all about
and it is absolutely essential that the syntax for it be lightweight.
If we think using . as
Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 October 2010 07:53, Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2010 22:44:04, Stephen Tetley wrote:
On 28 October 2010 20:59, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
P.S. I encourage people to use the
2) This is a doocracy (man do I hate that word!). If there is a problem,
here's what you should do about it, in descending order of attractiveness:
a) Fix it yourself
b) Pay someone else to fix it
c) Motivate or politely encourage others to fix it, providing moral support,
etc.
The key
On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Günther Schmidt wrote:
Dear Malcolm,
since there is no mail client library even after 10+ years I suggest
to rethink the approach, because frankly, it's not working.
Hello!
I am in charge, sorry for the delay!
A number of years ago I tried to form a MIME
I understand your frustration at not having free tested libs ready-to-go,
Java/any-other-mainstream-language programmers tend to expect this and
usually get it.
If a lack of libs is a dealbreaker for you and you want to use a functional
programming language with some of Haskell's advantages (like
Or if you want to keep the advantages of a powerful type system, you can
use Scala.
Cheers,
Greg
On 10/28/10 9:53 PM, aditya siram wrote:
I understand your frustration at not having free tested libs
ready-to-go, Java/any-other-mainstream-language programmers tend to
expect this and usually
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