John Meacham wrote:
It is somewhat depressing that immutable pre-packaged macros[1] and the
simple brute-force inclusion of separate tools[2] into the editor are
hailed as innovation, when new innovations, whether they are simple
refinements of old ideas[3], excercises in orthoginality[4], or
On 5/21/07, Michael T. Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Code like makeRandomValueST :: StdGen - (MyType, StdGen) (which,
incidentally, was far easier to copy from in Gedit than GVim to paste into
this message) ...
Really?
To copy that line of code in vim you could do:
v%y
assuming the
While I strongly disagree with you on the fact that refactoring is
just big macros (well it is, simply they're macros which operate more
on structured code than on structured text, ie they're aware of the
semantic of the language on which they're operating, and I don't know
you but I don't code
I have a dream. It's not a little dream. It's a big dream. I have a
dream that someday I can find a UNIX/Linux text editor for Haskell
hacking (and possibly two or three hundred other programming languages,
although that's optional) that can give me all of the following:
1. A real GUI
Michael T. Richter wrote:
I have a dream. It's not a little dream. It's a big dream. I have a
dream that someday I can find a UNIX/Linux text editor for Haskell
hacking (and possibly two or three hundred other programming languages,
although that's optional) that can give me all of the
On Mon, 2007-21-05 at 11:47 +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
Michael T. Richter wrote:
1. A real GUI environment that takes into account some of the HID
advances made in the past 30 years. (Emacs and Vim don't count,
in other words.)
That particular part is trolling. Both emacs
My friend read your email and remarked:
How is this guy not embarrassed posting on the internet about not liking
vim because he doesn't like editing config files?
On 21/05/07, Michael T. Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-21-05 at 11:47 +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
Michael T. Richter
On 21 May 2007, at 13:04, Rodrigo Queiro wrote:
My friend read your email and remarked:
How is this guy not embarrassed posting on the internet about not
liking vim because he doesn't like editing config files?
Two points
1) This guy doesn't like editing config files -- that's his
On Mon, 2007-21-05 at 13:04 +0100, Rodrigo Queiro wrote:
My friend read your email and remarked:
How is this guy not embarrassed posting on the internet about not
liking vim because he doesn't like editing config files?
Because, unlike your friend, I actually have seen the advances in HID
Hallo,
On 5/21/07, Michael T. Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and of course it wasn't just the config files I showed problems with, now,
was it? I seem to remember something about modality and bad syntax
highlighting. Maybe I was tripping. It happens.
You may not like
Your rant accomplishes nothing. Just note that programmers can
generally be considered more open towards harder-to-learn but
eventually more efficient to use interfaces. Yes, to a large part
they lack visibility, consistency, integration, or other such
properties; then again, once you learn to
I have a dream. It's not a little dream. It's a big dream. I have a
dream that someday I can find a UNIX/Linux text editor for Haskell
hacking (and possibly two or three hundred other programming languages,
although that's optional) that can give me all of the following:
'find / -type dream
With a slightly less flippant response, have you ever tried TextMate? I
haven't, but I've heard many wax lyrical about its combination of the UNIXy
power of Vim et al with the intuitive and simple UI that OS X has a
reputation for. Unfortunately, it's not free and is only for Mac OS X, but
it
On Mon, 2007-21-05 at 13:41 +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote:
Michael is asking is there something more GUI like? - to
which the answer is yes - Visual Haskell -
Sadly what I was asking was is there anything more GUI like for
Linux. ;) It doesn't surprise me that Macs and Windows boxes have
1.A real GUI
2.Good quality syntax highlighting for Haskell..., plus:
3. raw Haskell both forms of Literate Haskell;
4. properly highlight Haddock comments;
5. highlight functions and types from libraries differently
from local
3.Line folding
On 21-mei-2007, at 13:56, Michael T. Richter wrote:
Hell, even comparing the out-of-the-box syntax highlighting support
in Gedit vs. (G)Vim is instructive. Code like
makeRandomValueST :: StdGen - (MyType, StdGen) (which,
incidentally, was far easier to copy from in Gedit than GVim to
Bayley, Alistair wrote:
1. A real GUI
2. Good quality syntax highlighting for Haskell..., plus:
3. raw Haskell both forms of Literate Haskell;
4. properly highlight Haddock comments;
5. highlight functions and types from libraries differently
from local
3. Line folding to hide
On 21/05/07, Michael T. Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Easy, quick access to online documentation for said functions and declarations.
I'm writing this for Emacs right now. At the moment both Emacs and Vim
can access everything that GHCi has to offer on a function, which
means where it's
You mentioned a dream
Have you looked at Yi? might be worth a peek if you're prepared
to work towards your dream.
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Yi
...a long way to go - but it certainly nails #7!
--Ben
On 21 May 2007, at 15:44, Leif Frenzel wrote:
Bayley, Alistair wrote:
Michael T. Richter wrote:
1. A real GUI environment that takes into account some of the HID
advances made in the past 30 years. (Emacs and Vim don't count,
in other words.)
I for my life think HID refers to human input devices: keyboard, mouse,
joystick, gamepad, pedal,
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 02:30, Claus Reinke wrote:
Vim is eliminated before it reaches the gate because it's a modal
editor. Even with GVim in place, it still has that modal stench to it
that leaps up and bites at awkward moments.
that's a bit more specific, at least. but as far as i recall,
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 06:37:22PM +0800, Michael T. Richter wrote:
1. A real GUI environment that takes into account some of the HID
advances made in the past 30 years. (Emacs and Vim don't count,
in other words.)
heh. find me a new GUI editor that takes into account the
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