Out of curiosity: is there something wrong with my nickname migmit?
I'm not gonna change it anyway.
On 6 Apr 2010, at 09:52, Edward Z. Yang wrote:
This is a pretty terrible reason, but I'm going to throw it out there:
I like real names because they're much more aesthetically pleasing.
In
Maybe users could choose between using a real name and being given a
random one (like AnonymousN). This will (1) protect from data
mining, (2) protect from government persecution and (3) keep the
damned 1337 Haxxor names away from Hackage :)
On 6 April 2010 08:02, Miguel Mitrofanov
2010/4/6 Jonas Almström Duregård jonas.dureg...@gmail.com:
Maybe users could choose between using a real name and being given a
random one (like AnonymousN). This will (1) protect from data
mining, (2) protect from government persecution and (3) keep the
damned 1337 Haxxor names away from
Miguel Mitrofanov miguelim...@yandex.ru writes:
Out of curiosity: is there something wrong with my nickname migmit?
How it was derived is at least apparent, as opposed to nicknames that
have nothing to do with people's real names.
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Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com
I note that in some jurisdictions there is no such thing as a real name.
You can change your name for legal purposes (on official documentation and
so forth) simply by asserting that this is the name you prefer to be known
by. Your legal name doesn't have to be the same as your everyday name
(mine
I think this is a bad idea as it ruins recognisability. How am I meant
to know that anonymous1 on hackage is the same person as mrfoo on
haskellwiki, for example?
I should not have to point out how unreliable this method of
identifying individuals is... I suppose there is no way of preventing
Exactly, it's not like the Hackage people are doing extensive
background checks of everyone, they just want something consistent.
You guys don't _really_ think my name is Joe Fredette, right?
I'm actually Batman.
/Joe
On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Jesper Louis Andersen wrote:
On Mon, Apr 5,
Joe Fredette jfred...@gmail.com writes:
You guys don't _really_ think my name is Joe Fredette, right?
I'm actually Batman.
Batman, Joe, whatever your name is...
I notice that the HWN has turned into the Haskell
Whenever-I-can-be-bothered-getting-around-to-it News... _
--
Ivan Lazar
.On 5 April 2010 03:57, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
I can understand wishing to be anonymous in these kinds of situations,
but in terms of submitting open source software? Unless their employer
is worried about them releasing proprietary software on Hackage, I don't
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 10:28:26PM +0100, David House wrote:
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names. The person in question (who didn't send this email as he's
wishing to remain anonymous) applied for a Hackage account and was
turned down, as he
On 5 April 2010 12:52, Ross Paterson r...@soi.city.ac.uk wrote:
Basically http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/RealNameUserAdvantages, especially
simplicity, trust and recognizability.
Allow me to respond to some of these points. I find none of them
particularly convincing, especially not when compared
+1 for lifting this restriction.
On 4/4/10 23:28, David House wrote:
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names.
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Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered
and more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN
should be back shortly.
Come Summertime, I suspect all of these delays will stop, but with a 7
class semester, something's gotta give.
/Joe
On Apr 5,
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 5:28 PM, David House dmho...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names. The person in question (who didn't send this email as he's
wishing to remain anonymous) applied for a Hackage account and was
turned
Maybe some can help him with this.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Joe Fredette jfred...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered and
more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN should be
back shortly.
Come Summertime, I
Joe Fredette jfred...@gmail.com writes:
Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered
and more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN
should be back shortly.
Hang on, I thought your name was Batman, not Joe...
--
Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Thats what I _want_ you to think. :)
On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
Joe Fredette jfred...@gmail.com writes:
Unfortunately, Ivan, it's not so much the Whenever-I-can-be-bothered
and more the Joe-had-4-finals-in-2-weeks-and-3-papers-to-write. HWN
should be back
In addition, the concept is rather silly, as one can just take a
pseudonym without any of us knowing:
When I registered I was prompted to verify my identity by means of my
university email (as opposed to my gmail account), which would
complicate using a pseudonym.
This being said, I have no
Well,
Is the real name uniq enough?
I mean if I google for Marc Weber many Haskell related posts show up.
So yes, this is me - but there are also many false hits.
So I for my part do no longer trust google results if I want to judge a
person. It gives some hints - you can verify by asking the
2010/4/5 Jonas Almström Duregård jonas.dureg...@gmail.com:
This being said, I have no problem with this restriction. In fact,
trying to determine the origin of code before agreeing to distribute
it sounds like sound procedure.
How so? What does knowing the real name of some code's author tell
2010/04/05 Casey McCann syntaxgli...@gmail.com:
Not to mention that pseudonymity is overwhelmingly the norm on the
internet.
I suppose this is the collision of two cultures. Lambda the
Ultimate also encourages (but does not require) real names. I
think this has to do with academic values,
On 5 April 2010 23:52, Jason Dusek jason.du...@gmail.com wrote:
There certainly is a significant subculture of anonymity on
the internet but maybe it has spread beyond its useful limits?
There are places where it is helpful (Allberry's examples
above come to mind) but I don't think
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:00 PM, David House dmho...@gmail.com wrote:
You're coming at this from the wrong angle. Rather than saying, why
should we allow pseudonyms? we should ask why are we restricting the
freedom of users that just wish to contribute code?
Exactly. I don't understand the
David House dmho...@gmail.com writes:
If I'm honest, I'm really surprised so many people have replied in
favour of the restriction. I've stated an explicit way in which it's
hurting the community, and the only person to say anything in the
policy's defence other that well, why not? has been
This discussion makes me ponder whether someone like _why the lucky
stiff would ever contribute Haskell packages, hehe. I can count on two
hands people I know in various programming communities who have
identity issues but are prolific creators. Are we missing out?
Probably. But at least there is
On 6 April 2010 10:48, Christopher Done chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote:
This discussion makes me ponder whether someone like _why the lucky
stiff would ever contribute Haskell packages, hehe.
I think we can do without someone who hides behind anonymity and then
suddenly decides to go and delete
How would enforcing a 'real names' policy affect a contributor like
_why (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_the_lucky_stiff)? I assume they
would not join the community.
I get the feeling that this discussion is somehow linked to haskell's
type-system, but have no idea why...
On 6 April 2010 01:52, Ivan Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 April 2010 10:48, Christopher Done chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote:
This discussion makes me ponder whether someone like _why the lucky
stiff would ever contribute Haskell packages, hehe.
I think we can do without
I hardly think you can say that _why had a negative impact on the ruby
community...
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Christopher Done
chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 6 April 2010 01:52, Ivan Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 April 2010 10:48, Christopher Done
This is a pretty terrible reason, but I'm going to throw it out there:
I like real names because they're much more aesthetically pleasing. In
my younger days, I once decided, Hey, I should get a pseudonym and I
picked something fairly ridiculous, just because everyone else was doing
it. I would
On 6 April 2010 15:52, Edward Z. Yang ezy...@mit.edu wrote:
This is a pretty terrible reason, but I'm going to throw it out there:
I like real names because they're much more aesthetically pleasing. In
my younger days, I once decided, Hey, I should get a pseudonym and I
picked something
Hi,
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names. The person in question (who didn't send this email as he's
wishing to remain anonymous) applied for a Hackage account and was
turned down, as he refused to offer his real name for the username.
Those of us in
On 5 April 2010 07:28, David House dmho...@gmail.com wrote:
An issue came up on #haskell recently with Hackage accounts requiring
real names. The person in question (who didn't send this email as he's
wishing to remain anonymous) applied for a Hackage account and was
turned down, as he refused
On Apr 4, 2010, at 19:35 , Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
I would wonder _why_ anyone would refuse to do so. Are they that
ashamed of their own software that they wouldn't want to be associated
with it, or is there some legal reason that they don't want to be
associated with it?
Some people are
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
allb...@ece.cmu.edu wrote:
Some people are paranoid about such things, for example because it would
allow people to google-mine for things they'd rather a random HR person not
reading by linking names together.
In addition, the concept
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH allb...@ece.cmu.edu writes:
(Several people I know who do this are fairly active in the bi, poly,
and/or BSDM communities and are justifiably worried that HR would take
a dim view of it being possibly associated with their company.)
I can understand wishing to be
On Apr 4, 2010, at 22:57 , Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH allb...@ece.cmu.edu writes:
(Several people I know who do this are fairly active in the bi, poly,
and/or BSDM communities and are justifiably worried that HR would
take
a dim view of it being possibly associated
On 04/04/2010 06:35 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:
I would wonder _why_ anyone would refuse to do so. Are they that
ashamed of their own software that they wouldn't want to be associated
with it, or is there some legal reason that they don't want to be
associated with it?
This seems to be
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