Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell compilation errors break the complexity encapsulation on DSLs

2013-04-30 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I hope that the GHC people will give to this a high priority. Specially for the people of FP Complete for which this should be a first target. I know that Simon Peyton Jones gave up in avoid success at all costs and not it invest in the industry. Isn't? Alberto -

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell compilation errors break the complexity encapsulation on DSLs

2013-04-27 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I created a ticket for the feature request: Ticket #7870 Teachers, newbies and people working in Industry: Please push it! 2013/4/24 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com Maybe it is possible to do something In a google summer of code. Nothing as sophisticated as the Helium paper

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell compilation errors break the complexity encapsulation on DSLs

2013-04-27 Thread Ozgur Akgun
Hi, On 27 April 2013 10:07, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: I created a ticket for the feature request: Ticket #7870 Teachers, newbies and people working in Industry: Please push it! A link to the ticket may be helpful for the lazy.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell compilation errors break the complexity encapsulation on DSLs

2013-04-24 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Maybe it is possible to do something In a google summer of code. Nothing as sophisticated as the Helium paper (Scripting the Type Inference Process, but maybe a partial implementation of the techniques mentioned, so that the development can be enhanced in the future. Maybe some kind of library

[Haskell-cafe] Haskell compilation errors break the complexity encapsulation on DSLs

2013-04-23 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Hi I ever was worried about the barrier that the complexity of the Haskell errors impose to users of DSLs. Many DSLs look so simple that even someone without knowledge of Haskell can make use of them for some domains. However when the program is compiled then al the monsters of the deep appear

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell compilation errors break the complexity encapsulation on DSLs

2013-04-23 Thread Brent Yorgey
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:49:59PM +0200, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Hi I ever was worried about the barrier that the complexity of the Haskell errors impose to users of DSLs. Many DSLs look so simple that even someone without knowledge of Haskell can make use of them for some domains.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell compilation errors break the complexity encapsulation on DSLs

2013-04-23 Thread Stephen Tetley
Helium - Utrecht University's simplified Haskell - had scriptable Type inference directives so the creator of an EDSL was able to augment the type checker to provide better error messages, see: Scripting the Type Inference Process Bastiaan Heeren Jurriaan Hage S. Doaitse Swierstra

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell compilation errors break the complexity encapsulation on DSLs

2013-04-23 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Stephen The paper is very interesting. We need something like that: ... As a result, the beginning programmer is likely to be discouraged from pro-gramming in a functional language, and may see the rejection of programs as a nuisance instead of a blessing. The experienced user might not look at