Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-04 Thread Max Bolingbroke
On 4 February 2011 02:35, Steve Severance st...@medwizard.net wrote: Wholly support moving OSX to x64. x86 should be supported only on a best effort basis for legacy. Moving from x86 to x64 has advantages and disadvantages from my POV. Advantages: * Able to address more memory * More

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-04 Thread John Lato
From: Max Bolingbroke batterseapo...@hotmail.com On 4 February 2011 02:35, Steve Severance st...@medwizard.net wrote: Wholly support moving OSX to x64. x86 should be supported only on a best effort basis for legacy. Moving from x86 to x64 has advantages and disadvantages from my POV.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-04 Thread Edward Amsden
Steve Severance st...@medwizard.net wrote: Moving from x86 to x64 has advantages and disadvantages from my POV. Advantages:  * Able to address more memory  * More registers for code generation  * Haskell dependencies wouldn't need to be built for x86 on Snow Leopard (though if we swapped

[Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread Max Cantor
I originally posted this on haskell-GHC-users, but was curious how the wider community felt. The last 32-bit, Intel Mac was the Mac Mini, discontinued in August 2007. The bulk of them were discontinued in 2006, along with PowerPC Macs. Does it make sense to relegate OSX x86_64 to community

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread wren ng thornton
On 2/3/11 10:48 AM, Max Cantor wrote: Does it make sense to relegate OSX x86_64 to community status while the 32-bit version is considered a supported platform? I'm not sure I can make sense of what you mean here. Given the preamble, I'd guess you're asking whether we should make x86_64 the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On 4/02/2011, at 2:14 PM, wren ng thornton wrote: On 2/3/11 10:48 AM, Max Cantor wrote: Does it make sense to relegate OSX x86_64 to community status while the 32-bit version is considered a supported platform? I'm not sure I can make sense of what you mean here. Given the preamble, I'd

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread Max Cantor
I'm not sure I can make sense of what you mean here. Given the preamble, I'd guess you're asking whether we should make x86_64 the targeted architecture for OSX support, and reclassify 32-bit OSX to unsupported or hopefully it still works status. (But in that case, it's the 32-bit which

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread wren ng thornton
Max Cantor wrote: someone? wrote: I think the original poster is saying that the targeted architecture for OS X support should be the architecture that OS X assumes by default, and these days that's x86_64. That sounds reasonable to me. The big caveat is that OSX = 10.5.8 10.6 should

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread Max Cantor
Doesn't 10.5.x have the ability to generate and run 64-bit binaries? mc On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:19 AM, wren ng thornton wrote: Max Cantor wrote: someone? wrote: I think the original poster is saying that the targeted architecture for OS X support should be the architecture that OS X assumes

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread Steve Severance
Wholly support moving OSX to x64. x86 should be supported only on a best effort basis for legacy. Steve On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Max Cantor mxcan...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't 10.5.x have the ability to generate and run 64-bit binaries? mc On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:19 AM, wren ng thornton

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread wren ng thornton
On 2/3/11 9:28 PM, Max Cantor wrote: Doesn't 10.5.x have the ability to generate and run 64-bit binaries? Yes, it does. But it defaults to 32-bit as I recall. Richard O'Keefe suggested a general practice of targeting the architecture considered default by the operating system. That's a good

Re: [Haskell-cafe] OSX i386/x86 and x86_64 - time to switch supported platforms?

2011-02-03 Thread Mark Lentczner
On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Max Cantor wrote: Yes. I'm saying that I believe that OSX x86_64 should be the officially supported platform instead of 32-bit x86 with all the associated guarantees and assurances. I wanted to see how people felt about that. I don't think this is such a good