Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Ketil Malde
David Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bah, simple libraries. They don't have to be part of the Standard Prelude. I completely agree. I'd rather decrease the number of libraries defined in the language itself and decouple library standardization from the definition of the language

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Cale Gibbard
On 15/10/05, Ketil Malde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bah, simple libraries. They don't have to be part of the Standard Prelude. I completely agree. I'd rather decrease the number of libraries defined in the language itself and decouple library

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Freitag, 14. Oktober 2005 16:26 schrieben Sie: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 23 lines which said: alpha = ('A' `to` 'Z') ||| ('a' `to` 'z') If you intend to seriously specify a new language for regexps, please

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Malcolm Wallace
Ketil Malde [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bah, simple libraries. They don't have to be part of the Standard Prelude. I completely agree. I'd rather decrease the number of libraries defined in the language itself and decouple library

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Freitag, 14. Oktober 2005 16:25 schrieben Sie: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always couldn't understand why one has to write regular expressions as strings Because the language used inside these strings is standard,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Stephane, Thursday, October 13, 2005, 11:24:30 AM, you wrote: SB As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, SB I would like to express a personal opinion; we don't need a new SB standard. To me, Haskell needs more libraries, more users (which means SB more

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Marco Tulio Gontijo e Silva
Em Qui, 2005-10-13 às 09:47 +0100, Bayley, Alistair escreveu: - * Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may contain confidential and/or

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Bayley, Alistair
From: Marco Tulio Gontijo e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em Qui, 2005-10-13 às 09:47 +0100, Bayley, Alistair escreveu: * Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message blah blah blah Is this kind of notice

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2005 13:39 schrieb Stephane Bortzmeyer: [...] Regexps and XML are, IMHO, also must haves. By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in an Haskell-like way. I always couldn't understand why one has to write regular expressions as strings which

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 23 lines which said: By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in an Haskell-like way. If you like so, but as one more possibility, not as the only way. I always couldn't

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 23 lines which said: alpha = ('A' `to` 'Z') ||| ('a' `to` 'z') If you intend to seriously specify a new language for regexps, please consider Unicode. There are more letters than A to Z...

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Philippa Cowderoy
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 23 lines which said: By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in an Haskell-like way. If you like so, but as one more

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:34:33PM +0100, Jon Fairbairn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 37 lines which said: Because the language used inside these strings is standard, multi-language, widely used and documented? 10,000 lemmings can't be wrong? Right, disregard ASCII and specify

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Jon Fairbairn
On 2005-10-14 at 16:56+0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:34:33PM +0100, Jon Fairbairn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the language used inside these strings is standard, multi-language, widely used and documented? 10,000 lemmings can't be wrong? Right,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Niklas Broberg
Regexps and XML are, IMHO, also must haves. By the way, it should be possible to handle regular expressions in an Haskell-like way. Harp? :-) http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~d00nibro/harp /Niklas ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Aaron Denney
On 2005-10-13, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:29:57AM +, Robin Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 22 lines which said: ... and, in the case of the Standard Prelude section, or equivalent, a specification of well-understood functions

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread David Roundy
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 07:15:11PM +, Aaron Denney wrote: On 2005-10-13, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:29:57AM +, Robin Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 22 lines which said: ... and, in the case of the Standard Prelude

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread John Meacham
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 03:34:33PM +0100, Jon Fairbairn wrote: On 2005-10-14 at 16:25+0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 23 lines which said: By the way, it should be possible to handle

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 03:39:34PM -0700, Isaac Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 30 lines which said: One of the main topics was the perceived need of a new standard, As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, I would like to express a personal opinion;

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Neil Mitchell
As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, I would like to express a personal opinion; we don't need a new standard. Maybe you just don't realise how much we do need a new standard! standard. To me, Haskell needs more libraries, more users (which means more

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Bayley, Alistair
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As someone who is not an academic researcher and not a student in CS, I would like to express a personal opinion; we don't need a new standard. To me, Haskell needs more libraries, more users (which means more debugging and more

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Cale Gibbard
Well, what we already have is a lot of language extensions with varying degrees of support across implementations. GHC is somewhat of a standard in and of itself, and one thing that standardisation efforts bring is a record of what exactly GHC is doing, thus allowing for more and better

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:29:57AM +, Robin Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 22 lines which said: ... and, in the case of the Standard Prelude section, or equivalent, a specification of well-understood functions that the spec authors agree should be provided in all