Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

Most languages, even Java, have a reflection capability to dynamically inspect an object. _Even_ Java? That's a strange point of view considering how much money went into this technology. they didn't take reflection seriously at first, initially providing only a half-baked feature set; that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 10:05:40PM +0100, Pasqualino 'Titto' Assini wrote: Most languages, even Java, have a reflection capability to dynamically inspect an object. _Even_ Java? That's a strange point of view considering how much money went into this technology. I also find it hard to believe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 10:27:58AM +0200, Tomasz Zielonka wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 10:05:40PM +0100, Pasqualino 'Titto' Assini wrote: Most languages, even Java, have a reflection capability to dynamically inspect an object. It is surprising that Haskell doesn't offer it. I'll just

RE: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomasz Zielonka On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 10:05:40PM +0100, Pasqualino 'Titto' Assini wrote: Most languages, even Java, have a reflection capability to dynamically inspect an object. It is surprising that Haskell doesn't offer it. I'll

RTTI in Haskell Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

Hello Tomasz, Thursday, June 21, 2007, 12:27:58 PM, you wrote: I also find it hard to believe that most languages have reflection, especially those which are traditionally focused on efficiency and compilation to native code, like C, C++, Fortran, Pascal, etc. for OOP languages, it is no

Orthogonal Persistence in Haskell, was: Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

On Monday 18 June 2007 23:45:23 Claus Reinke wrote: Have you checked the prevayler-inspired approach implemented in HAppS ? no, do you have a reference? but i meant orthogonal persistence, as in all program parts can persist, including functions, thunks, types,.. once you start going down

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

Thomas Schilling wrote: * Structural (optionally Type-Directed) Editing Structural editing means that your code is always (mostly) syntactically correct, and in case of haskell maybe also type-checked. This also implies that edit operations have syntactic awareness. paredit[1] emulates

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

On 18 jun 2007, at 16.01, Pasqualino 'Titto' Assini wrote: Having just presented a case for the possible rationality of the irrational decision of creating an Emacs-like IDE in Haskell, I wonder if we should not be even more irrational and contemplate the possibility of using Haskell to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

On 6/18/07, Pasqualino 'Titto' Assini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having just presented a case for the possible rationality of the irrational decision of creating an Emacs-like IDE in Haskell, I wonder if we should not be even more irrational and contemplate the possibility of using Haskell to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

Having just presented a case for the possible rationality of the irrational decision of creating an Emacs-like IDE in Haskell, I wonder if we should not be even more irrational and contemplate the possibility of using Haskell to create a radically different kind of IDE.. New technologies are

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

Hi Claus, On Monday 18 June 2007 18:14:58 Claus Reinke wrote: Having just presented a case for the possible rationality of the irrational decision of creating an Emacs-like IDE in Haskell, I wonder if we should not be even more irrational and contemplate the possibility of using Haskell to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

On Monday 18 June 2007 16:13:02 you wrote: I just did a quick read through of your dream and I'm not going to say either way with it. But I would like to point out, just to make sure you've considered it, that my dream--or maybe my reality--involves being able to code without the requirement

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 22:05 +0100, Pasqualino 'Titto' Assini wrote: Hi Claus, On Monday 18 June 2007 18:14:58 Claus Reinke wrote: Having just presented a case for the possible rationality of the irrational decision of creating an Emacs-like IDE in Haskell, I wonder if we should not be

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

hi titto, I actually knew about Croquet but I thought of it mostly as an open-source second life because of its emphasys on shared 3D worlds but you are quite right, it might also be useful for cooperative software development. the first corporation betting its money on croquet is Qwaq:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] To yi or not to yi, is this really the question? A plea for a cooperative, ubiquitous, distributed integrated development system.

On Mon, 2007-18-06 at 15:01 +0100, Pasqualino 'Titto' Assini wrote: LambdaBot, hpaste and hoogle as well as the Haskell Wiki and indeed even this mailing list can all be thought as elements of a cooperative, ubiquitous, customisable, zero-installation, distributed and integrated (that