Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-14 Thread Herbert Valerio Riedel
Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com writes: Haskell libraries are mostly BSD licensed, as is GHC itself. (Oddly enough, GPL is not the only open source license.) btw, what about GHC's reliance on the LGPLed GMP library? Doesn't that already taint the whole GHC eco-system? Quoting [1]: | GMP

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-14 Thread Niklas Larsson
: Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com Kopia: Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@cl.cam.ac.uk; haskell-cafe haskell-cafe@haskell.org Ämne: Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com writes: Haskell libraries are mostly BSD licensed, as is GHC itself. (Oddly enough, GPL

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-14 Thread Greg Fitzgerald
-simple in your GHC. Niklas -- Från: Herbert Valerio Riedel h...@gnu.org Skickat: 2012-12-14 11:55 Till: Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com Kopia: Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@cl.cam.ac.uk; haskell-cafehaskell-cafe@haskell.org Ämne: Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread Felipe Almeida Lessa
Hey, Petr! Have you considered licensing your library as BSD? Given the current way that Haskell programs are compiled, your library is effectively licensed as GPL and that will scare away many people from using it. Cheers, =) On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Petr P petr@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread Ramana Kumar
Using the GPL (or a strong copyleft free license) strengthens the free software community of which I thought the Haskell community is a part (or at least intersects substantially). I'm not sure why people are recommending not to use it. Let me counter with my recommendation against switching to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@cl.cam.ac.ukwrote: Using the GPL (or a strong copyleft free license) strengthens the free software community of which I thought the Haskell community is a part (or at least intersects substantially). Haskell libraries are mostly BSD

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread David Thomas
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.comwrote: (Oddly enough, GPL is not the only open source license.) There was no implication to the contrary. It was stated that BSD is a *weaker* license - this is true in the sense that it has fewer requirements (in particular,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread Jonathan Fischer Friberg
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@cl.cam.ac.ukwrote: Using the GPL (or a strong copyleft free license) strengthens the free software community of which I thought the Haskell community is a part (or at least intersects substantially). I don't think it strengthens the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread David Thomas
Right. Like, if Linus hadn't bogged down the Linux kernel with the GPL license, it might have wound up as popular as BSD! Both dynamics go on, and the question is which is more likely to dominate in a given case (and cumulatively). On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread Alexander Solla
As a matter of fact, BSD is far more popular on the desktop than GPL. And has a huge share of the mobile market. Witness: OS X, iOS. And none of this has anything to do with Haskell. Petr can release *his* code with any license he wants. Some licenses fit into *this* ecosystem better than

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread David Thomas
... and OS X and iOS are clearly a win for the FLOSS community? On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Alexander Solla alex.so...@gmail.comwrote: As a matter of fact, BSD is far more popular on the desktop than GPL. And has a huge share of the mobile market. Witness: OS X, iOS. And none of this

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread Ramana Kumar
I wonder if this discussion has been had before in the Haskell community. If so, pointers to archives could be of interest. I'm glad to see that there are others who apparently share my concern about the fact that people are actively recommending that new libraries be licensed without copyleft.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread Mike Meyer
David Thomas davidleotho...@gmail.com wrote: ... and OS X and iOS are clearly a win for the FLOSS community? Yes. The parts of it that are willing to use BSD-licensed software, anyway. Apple does release sources to some of their toys. They released all of OS X below the GUI level, for

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread wren ng thornton
On 12/11/12 9:30 PM, Ramana Kumar wrote: I wonder if this discussion has been had before in the Haskell community. If so, pointers to archives could be of interest. Indeed, the discussion has been had more than once. Alas, I'm too bogged for time to look up the archives at the moment. I'm

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: tie-knot library

2012-12-11 Thread David Thomas
IANAL, but reviewing what others have written, it sounds like it may be possible to maintain *some* distinction between LGPL and GPL in Haskell, but it's a different distinction than with an LGPL shared library, so even if applicable it's certainly worth being aware of. It sounds (and I'd very