Am Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2009 01:03 schrieb rocon...@theorem.ca:
I wanted to pass this idea around the cafe to get some thoughts before
submitting a trac on this topic.
I'd like to see the mtl removed from the Haskell Platform.
The mtl was a tremendous step forward when it was developed.
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:14, Wolfgang Jeltsch
g9ks1...@acme.softbase.org wrote:
4) The identifiers State and StateT are flawed. Something of value State s a
doesn’t denote a state but a state transformer or however you want to name
it.
A state monad, i.e. a monad containing a state? If you
rocon...@theorem.ca wrote:
I wanted to pass this idea around the cafe to get some thoughts before
submitting a trac on this topic.
I'd like to see the mtl removed from the Haskell Platform.
The mtl was a tremendous step forward when it was developed. However,
we have learned a few things
rocon...@theorem.ca wrote:
I think that use of the mtl should be deprecated so that we move on
to improved monad transformer libraries. Having the mtl in the
Haskell Platform does the opposite by further entrenching its use,
possibly to the point where we may not be able to get rid of it for
Not of the same gravity as mtl, but I was a bit surprised to see that
PackedString was included, in spite of it being marked as deprecated
on Hackage.
Presumably, this is because some other library depends on this, but I
think platform-blessing a deprecated library is a strange thing to
do. If
Sittampalam, Ganesh wrote:
We've discussed replacing it with transformers+monads-fd+an mtl
compatiblity layer on librar...@. Ross and I plan to propose doing this
for the second release of the platform - it's not fair to disrupt the
first release at this stage.
transformers+monads-fd is quite a
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:01 +0100, Neil Brown wrote:
Sittampalam, Ganesh wrote:
We've discussed replacing it with transformers+monads-fd+an mtl
compatiblity layer on librar...@. Ross and I plan to propose doing this
for the second release of the platform - it's not fair to disrupt the
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 10:24 +0200, Ketil Malde wrote:
Not of the same gravity as mtl, but I was a bit surprised to see that
PackedString was included, in spite of it being marked as deprecated
on Hackage.
TemplateHaskell still uses it. There was not a lot we could do for the
first release.
Hello Duncan,
Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 3:33:13 PM, you wrote:
I think it should remain deprecated and we should work on the
replacement so that TH can switch its dependency.
TH isn't high-performance package and i think that it should just
switch to use of String
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Best regards,
Bulat
On Wed, 13 May 2009 15:37:52 +0400
Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Duncan,
Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 3:33:13 PM, you wrote:
I think it should remain deprecated and we should work on the
replacement so that TH can switch its dependency.
TH isn't high-performance
Hello Robin,
Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 3:45:57 PM, you wrote:
TH isn't high-performance package and i think that it should just
switch to use of String
I don't agree. TH can sometimes slow down a build considerably. I don't
want to see it getting even slower.
i think GHC compile times is
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 15:37 +0400, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
Hello Duncan,
Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 3:33:13 PM, you wrote:
I think it should remain deprecated and we should work on the
replacement so that TH can switch its dependency.
TH isn't high-performance package and i think that it
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Robin Green wrote:
I don't agree. TH can sometimes slow down a build considerably. I don't
want to see it getting even slower.
I once switched TH to Strings. All the uses are trivial, and the
encoded strings so
Nothing controversial said here... I'm just agreeing with Russel.
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:03 PM, rocon...@theorem.ca wrote:
I wanted to pass this idea around the cafe to get some thoughts before
submitting a trac on this topic.
I'd like to see the mtl removed from the Haskell Platform.
ketil:
Not of the same gravity as mtl, but I was a bit surprised to see that
PackedString was included, in spite of it being marked as deprecated
on Hackage.
Ketil, I would encourage you to open a ticket on the platform wiki
summarising the state of the packedstring issue.
-- Don
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:04:52AM +0100, Sittampalam, Ganesh wrote:
We've discussed replacing it with transformers+monads-fd+an mtl
compatiblity layer on librar...@. Ross and I plan to propose doing this
for the second release of the platform - it's not fair to disrupt the
first release at
gwern0:
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Robin Green wrote:
I don't agree. TH can sometimes slow down a build considerably. I don't
want to see it getting even slower.
I once switched TH to Strings. All the uses are trivial, and the
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
Do you have a patch?
No. This was a while ago, and the changes really are trivial. I
thought about submitting it, but it seemed to me that the change could
only be useful when people upgrade their entire compiler/library
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