Re: [Haskell-cafe] Uploading a new hsc2hs

2012-04-27 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 06:57:14PM -0700, Thomas DuBuisson wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Antoine Latter aslat...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Thomas DuBuisson thomas.dubuis...@gmail.com wrote: Warning: I, not the maintainer of hsc2hs, will be uploading a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: system-filepath 0.4.5 and system-fileio 0.3.4

2012-02-16 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:40:28AM -0800, John Meacham wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Ian Lynagh ig...@earth.li wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 04:52:16AM -0800, John Meacham wrote: Since CSigSet has sigset_t associated with it, 'Ptr CSigSet' ends up turning into 'sigset_t

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: system-filepath 0.4.5 and system-fileio 0.3.4

2012-02-09 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 04:52:16AM -0800, John Meacham wrote: Since CSigSet has sigset_t associated with it, 'Ptr CSigSet' ends up turning into 'sigset_t *' in the generated code. (Ptr (Ptr CChar)) turns into char** and so forth. What does the syntax for associating sigset_t with CSigSet

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: system-filepath 0.4.5 and system-fileio 0.3.4

2012-02-08 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 06:26:48PM -0800, John Meacham wrote: Hi, from my reading, it looks like 'capi' means from a logical perspective, Don't assume the object is addressible, but rather that the standard c syntax for calling this routine will expand into correct code when compiled with

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: system-filepath 0.4.5 and system-fileio 0.3.4

2012-02-06 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:17:32PM -0800, John Millikin wrote: That was my understanding also, then QuickCheck found a counter-example. It turns out that there are cases where a valid path cannot be roundtripped in the GHC 7.2 encoding. This is fixed in GHC 7.4.1. Thanks Ian

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to ensure code executes in the context of a specific OS thread?

2011-07-05 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 08:11:21PM +0100, Simon Marlow wrote: In GHCi it's a different matter, because the main thread is running GHCi itself, and all the expressions/statements typed at the prompt are run in forkIO'd threads (a new one for each statement, in fact). If you want a way to run

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Template Haskell a Permanent solution?

2011-01-18 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 04:15:07PM +0100, Christian Maeder wrote: Am 04.01.2011 15:48, schrieb Henning Thielemann: Christian Maeder schrieb: Am 27.12.2010 08:44, schrieb Henning Thielemann: On Mon, 27 Dec 2010, Jonathan Geddes wrote: #2 Provide instances automatically.

[Haskell-cafe] Test

2010-11-30 Thread Ian Lynagh
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[Haskell-cafe] Re: Splittable random numbers

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 05:38:12PM +, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: The generator uses crypto functions, Does that mean it couldn't be used in some countries? so it's probably more computationally expensive than common linear-sequence generators, but in exchange you get robust splitting.

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] haskell.org committee: Call for nominations

2010-09-22 Thread Ian Lynagh
We're half-way through the nomination period now, and have 4 nominations so far. If you're considering nominating yourself, you only have 1 week left! On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:16:40PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote: Dear Haskellers, The recent discussion indicates there is consensus for forming

[Haskell-cafe] haskell.org committee: Call for nominations

2010-09-15 Thread Ian Lynagh
Dear Haskellers, The recent discussion indicates there is consensus for forming a haskell.org committee. We are therefore calling for nominations for members of the initial committee. To nominate yourself, please send an e-mail to commit...@haskell.org by 29 September 2010. Please feel free to

[Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Form a haskell.org committee

2010-09-05 Thread Ian Lynagh
currently de-facto end up making the decisions currently: Duncan Coutts, Isaac Jones, Ian Lynagh, Don Stewart and Malcolm Wallace. These 5 would still be elligible to nominate themselves. Two of the initial members will stand down after one year, and two after two years, in order to bootstrap rolling

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Broken registration link on hackage trac

2010-01-18 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:35:31PM +, Andy Gimblett wrote: I want to register an account on hackage's trac instance, but the register an account link on the start page: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/wiki/WikiStart is broken. Fixed - thanks for the report. Thanks Ian

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Recompiling Hackage to estimate the impact of a change [Was: StricterLabelledFieldSyntax]

2009-07-26 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 08:21:00AM +0200, Johan Tibell wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Ian Lynagh ig...@earth.li wrote: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/haskell-prime/wiki/StricterLabelledFieldSyntax In general, I think it would be a good idea to provide some statistics of how

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Recompiling Hackage to estimate the impact of a change [Was: StricterLabelledFieldSyntax]

2009-07-26 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:25:12PM -0700, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote: johan.tibell: In general, I think it would be a good idea to provide some statistics of how many packages would break as the result of a backwards incompatible change. Agreed. And it should be required as part of

Re: [Haskell-cafe] community.haskell.org and code.haskell.org problems

2009-05-22 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:38:09AM +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote: Is there a reason for the poor reliability of these servers? We do have a plan to move community to a beefier machine with more reliable hosting. There are a few details to sort out first, and then we just need to find the time to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Introducing Instances in GHC point releases

2009-05-22 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi John, On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 09:30:24PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: I guess my larger point is just a plea to the community: please be really careful about what you do to GHC in point releases. We are careful about what goes into the official GHC release. However, ever since GHC 6.6

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Possible floating point bug in GHC?

2009-04-03 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:10:17PM +0200, Peter Verswyvelen wrote: I tried both precise and fast, but that did not help. Compiling to SSE2 fixed it, since that does not use a floating point stack I guess. You didn't say what version of GHC you are using, but it sounds like this might already be

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Making videos of your project

2009-03-31 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 03:01:52PM +0100, Claus Reinke wrote: Is there anyone here with experience in screencasting of text-based applications, who could offer advice on how to produce screencasts on windows/xp? The basic screencasting (capture+annotation/editing) is not the problem, eg,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Logo Voting has started!

2009-03-17 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:03:21PM -0400, Rick R wrote: QED Only relative ordering matters for condorcet, not the absolute rank. e.g., ranking A, B and C rank 1, and D, E and F rank 6 is exactly the same as ranking e.g., ranking A, B and C rank 2, and D, E and F rank

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Logo Preferences

2009-03-09 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 11:13:40AM +, Sebastian Sylvan wrote: Another reason condorcet voting is nice is that there is no need to group similar items together. I think the plan is that once a logo class is chosen, we'll have another vote for the actual colour scheme etc to be used, if

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Help using catch in 6.10

2009-02-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 01:18:35AM +0100, Martijn van Steenbergen wrote: You now need to specify the exact type of the exception you wish to catch. For example, to catch any exception: action `catch` (\(e :: SomeException) - handler) For more information, see:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
I think this thread has stopped being useful and started going round in circles, so I've blocked all messages to it and... On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 04:28:21PM -0800, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote: I'm setting your moderation bit now ...reverted this. Thanks Ian

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Open unqualified imports

2009-01-19 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 06:42:46AM -0800, eyal.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Closed-unqualified import: import Data.Map(Map, lookup) One problem with this style is that you can get lots of conflicts from your VCS if you have multiple people working on the same module. Thanks Ian

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: HTTPbis / HTTP-4000.x package available

2009-01-17 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Sigbjorn, On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:36:35PM -0800, Sigbjorn Finne wrote: I've yet to gain access to www.haskell.org and update http://www.haskell.org/http, Perhaps this would be a good point to move the website to the community server? Thanks Ian

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Comments from OCaml Hacker Brian Hurt

2009-01-16 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:39:18PM -0600, Creighton Hogg wrote: For you folks who work on GHC, is it acceptable to open tickets for poor documentation of modules in base? Personally, I don't think that doing so would make it more likely that someone would actually write the documentation; it

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Trouble with interact in ghci

2009-01-05 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Adrian On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:44:14AM +0100, Adrian Neumann wrote: I have a strange problem with interact on OS X (ghc 6.10.1). It seems to garble stdin. See the After using getContents section of http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ghci-faq.html Thanks

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: GHC 6.10.1 for Solaris i86

2009-01-05 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 04:24:25PM +0100, Christian Maeder wrote: Donald Halomoan wrote: I am waiting for GHC 6.10. 1 binary for Solaris i86. Thanks. You could try mine:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] haskell compiler never comes back

2008-12-16 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Greg, On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:23:08PM -0800, Greg Meredith wrote: The simple-minded and smallish code sample at this linkhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/95503/causes the compiler to go off into never-never land. Any clues would be greatly appreciated. I've lost track of this thread, but

Re: [Haskell-cafe] workarounds for Codec.Compression.Zlib errors in darcs

2008-11-27 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:28:21PM +, Duncan Coutts wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 14:38 +, Eric Kow wrote: Older versions of darcs can to produce gzipped files with broken CRCs. We never noticed this because our homegrown wrapper around the C libz library does not pick up these

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Possible issue with Hoogle and Haddock?

2008-11-20 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 02:25:25PM -0500, Stephen Hicks wrote: I was noticing recently that there seems to be a problem with Hoogle and Haddock. In particular, I just hoogled bracket and got the following result: bracket :: IO a - a - IO b - a - IO c - IO c Clearly this is the wrong

Re: [Haskell-cafe] problem with boolean splicing in templates in ghc 6.10.1

2008-11-12 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 02:16:21PM -0600, Leonidas Fegaras wrote: Seems that boolean splicing in haskell templates in ghc 6.10.1 does not work correctly. If you do: $((\b - [| b |]) True) you get the error: Can't find interface-file declaration for data constructor GHC.Base.True

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Trouble installing ghc-6.10.1 on linux

2008-11-11 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Bit, On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05:23PM +0200, Bit Connor wrote: First I tried the binary version ghc-6.10.1-i386-unknown-linux.tar.bz2 and I very quickly get this error: $ ./configure checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu

Re: [Haskell-cafe] performance difference for binary-0.4.3.1 with ghc-6.8.3 and ghc-6.10

2008-10-29 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:40:48AM +0700, Donald Halomoan wrote: Where can I get ghc-6.10? I cannot see it at haskell.org website. No releases from the 6.10 branch have been made yet. Thanks Ian ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Error building GHC 6.8.3: version of ../../compiler/stage1/ghc-inplace could not be determined

2008-10-19 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Devin, On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 06:03:30PM -0700, Devin Mullins wrote: I'm trying to build 6.8.3 on Linux PowerPC, based on an old binary of 6.4 (latest build for this arch that I found). stage1 seems to have built, but from there, building libraries almost immediately fails: You could

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Could not build win32 dll..

2008-10-13 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Yakov, On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:47:15PM +0400, Yakov ZAYTSEV wrote: Sadly, I've found --mk-dll option unrecognized by latest stable GHC 6.8.3.. I'm new to win32 development How one can make win32 dll at the moment? I've successfully compiled Adder sources from example from section

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Code.haskell.org down

2008-09-29 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 04:02:06PM +0100, Mitchell, Neil wrote: For me, it seems that code.haskell.org is down. Is this the case for other people as well? It seems code.haskell.org regularly looses connectivity for me :-( Thanks for the heads-up. On

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage - MacPorts?

2008-09-04 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 12:09:33PM -0400, David Menendez wrote: Does anyone know whether arch linux and debian can handle multiple Haskell environments? Debian currently only handles one version of GHC (but package dependencies mean that you can't end up with libraries compiled for the wrong

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Linux version of ghc-6.8.3 won't intall or run for me: Floating point exception.

2008-09-04 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:20:35PM +0200, Johannes Waldmann wrote: ./configure fails with checking for path to top of build tree... configure: error: cannot determine current directory. I guess the 6.8.3 binary does not work because it expects a newer version of libc or whatever. That's

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: wavconvert 0.1.1

2008-08-19 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 08:51:04AM +0200, Ketil Malde wrote: What is the current recommended way to build debian packages? I notice there's a step-by-step description at http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Creating_Debian_packages_from_Cabal_package That's the way I recommend. Any

Re: [Haskell-cafe] helping you contribute to darcs (poll results so far)

2008-08-06 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 12:20:17AM -0700, Jeremy Shaw wrote: Are the darcs developers familiar with these papers (available on citeseer): Undo Actions in Collaborative Work, Prakash Knister 1992 Undoing Actions in Collaborative Work: Framework and Experience, Prakash Knister 1994

Re: [Haskell-cafe] helping you contribute to darcs (poll results so far)

2008-08-06 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:28:58AM -0700, Jeremy Shaw wrote: At Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:48:03 +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote: I've just had a quick read of http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/prakash92undoing.html AFAICS this only really deals with the case where there are no conflicts, and doesn't

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Fw: patch applied (ghc): Remove the OpenGL family of libraries fromextralibs

2008-07-28 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:47:25PM -0400, Jefferson Heard wrote: Is there a list of outstanding bugs somewhere? A few of these are OpenGL/GLUT/OpenAL/ALUT bugs: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/query?status=newstatus=assignedstatus=reopenedcomponent=libraries+%28other%29order=priority It

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Data.Complex.magnitude slow?

2008-07-18 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:56:52PM +0200, stefan kersten wrote: c_magnitude0 (Complex.Data.magnitude) 0m7.249s c_magnitude1 (non-scaling version) 0m1.176s c_magnitude2 (scaling version, strict square) 0m3.278s Thanks! I've filed a bug here:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Data.Complex.magnitude slow?

2008-07-17 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 05:18:01PM +0200, Henning Thielemann wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, stefan kersten wrote: i've attached an example program which seems to indicate that the magnitude function from Data.Complex is very slow compared to a more naive implementation (for Complex Float).

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Fwd: [GHC] #2407: internal error

2008-06-30 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Vasili, On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 04:15:58AM -0500, Galchin, Vasili wrote: Ticket URL: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/2407 I tried to upload/attach a Linux core file to no avail. I'd guess it was too large? Anyway, if you could please attach the source code for the

Re: Haskell on ARM (was Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: Topkata)

2008-06-26 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:27:03AM -0700, Jeremy Shaw wrote: The unregisterised build is not that useful because: 1. no FFI If libffi supports it then this should now work. 1. add ARM support to the evil mangler (basically, a few regexps to strip prolog and epilogue stuff from the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] message passing style like in Haskell?

2008-06-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 07:57:58AM +0200, Ketil Malde wrote: Albert Y. C. Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While we are kind of on this topic, what makes the characters ħ þ prefix operator by default, while º and most other odd ones infix? alphanumeric vs non-alphanumeric Testing this,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] lhs syntax highlighting in vim

2008-06-11 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 01:23:58AM +0100, Eric Stansifer wrote: The syntax highlighting file for literate haskell in vim says that its maintainer is haskell-cafe@haskell.org, so hopefully one of you will find this relevant. In literate haskell files, vim optionally highlights the non-code

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Unable to hc-build ghc 6.6.1

2008-06-10 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 01:48:48PM -0400, Re, Joseph (IT) wrote: I'm trying to do a registered hc-build on linux2.4 x86 with ghc 6.6.1. You're likely to find it easier to bootstrap by installing a bindist onto the machine, unless that is impossible for some reason. GenApply.o(.text+0x13a55):

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Data.Map traversal.

2008-06-08 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Serguey, On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 05:32:46PM +0400, Serguey Zefirov wrote: So I propose to include those operations into next version of Data.Map. If anyone could point me in the right direction I could do any necessary modifications myself (just because I need it). Please see

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Issues of the mailto link on the list archive page

2008-06-08 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 10:21:13AM -0400, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: I had private conversation with Andrzej Jaworski about the fact that his reply to Alberto Ruiz's post is off thread. What he did was clicking on the mailto link beside the author's name on the list archive web page [1]. [1]

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Announce: ghc-core, command line pager for reading GHC Core

2008-05-23 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 05:54:36PM +0200, Henning Thielemann wrote: An even more advanced tool could show differences between two Core listings. That would be great. In the meantime, from GHC 6.10, -ddump-simpl -dsuppress-uniques can be good enough to get by (it means you don't get

Re: [Haskell-cafe] question about GHC and Unicode

2008-04-27 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:29:34PM -0700, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote: Ian Lynagh wrote a pure haskell readline implementation a while ago, I think that was Malcolm Wallace. Thanks Ian ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Announce: bytestring 0.9.1.0

2008-04-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:07:48PM -0700, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote: The use of bytestring inside GHC is limited only to a little bit in the GHCi modules -- and could easily be replaced, I suspect. Doing so would remove one dependency from GHC's core, as well as making it easier to upgrade

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Announce: bytestring 0.9.1.0

2008-04-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 01:27:20AM +0100, Duncan Coutts wrote: I guess we could try and adjust the names of the C symbols to include the package name and version. Or just rewrite the C bits in Haskell? There isn't much of it, and it doesn't look like there is a good reason that C should be

[Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: Well-Typed LLP - The Haskell Consultants

2008-04-06 Thread Ian Lynagh
Fellow Haskellers, We (Björn Bringert, Duncan Coutts and Ian Lynagh) are pleased to announce that we have recently set up a Haskell consultancy company, Well-Typed LLP (http://www.well-typed.com/). Our services include application development, library and tool maintenance, project advice

Re: [Haskell-cafe] SYB with class: Bug in Derive.hs module

2008-04-02 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:47:04PM +0200, Alexey Rodriguez Yakushev wrote: The Data instance that Derive generates is as follows: instance (Data ctx a, Data ctx (BinTree a), Sat (ctx (BinTree a))) = Data ctx (BinTree a) where

Re: [Haskell-cafe] installing ghc-6.8.2

2008-04-02 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 07:12:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so it's this line that seems of the most interesting cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fno-unit-at-a-time' It looks like your version of ghc isn't designed to be used with the version of gcc you have. Putting this in

Re: [Haskell-cafe] announce: Glome.hs raytracer

2008-03-30 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 02:49:35AM +, Ian Lynagh wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 02:33:20PM -0700, Jim Snow wrote: -Memory consumption is atrocious: 146 megs to render a scene that's a 33k ascii file. Where does it all go? A heap profile reports the max heap size at a rather more

Re: [Haskell-cafe] announce: Glome.hs raytracer

2008-03-26 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 02:33:20PM -0700, Jim Snow wrote: -Memory consumption is atrocious: 146 megs to render a scene that's a 33k ascii file. Where does it all go? A heap profile reports the max heap size at a rather more reasonable 500k or so. (My architecture is 64 bit ubuntu on a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Broken http://darcs.haskell.org/darcsweb/?

2008-02-20 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 07:28:54PM +, Dominic Steinitz wrote: I'm getting errors when I click on any of the links. I've created /tmp/darcsweb-cache and made it writable, which seems to have made it work again. I'm not sure who administers the site. Neither am I, but it needs some tweaking

Re: [Haskell-cafe] GHC + interactive input/output

2008-02-17 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Richard, On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 12:37:27PM +1300, Richard A. O'Keefe wrote: On 9 Feb 2008, at 2:29 pm, Philip Weaver wrote: GHC certain *could* do this, but it's arguably not the right thing to do. I have reminded the GHC maintainers before that the Haskell specification

Re: [Haskell-cafe] building the unix package and cabal

2008-02-04 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 10:50:13AM -0600, Galchin Vasili wrote: more specifically the gmp unsatisfied ref shows up with the DynamicLinker. This works for me, with GHC 6.8.2 and http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/unix/2.2.0.0/unix-2.2.0.0.tar.gz $ ghc --make Setup $ ./Setup configure

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Has character changed in GHC 6.8?

2008-01-22 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 03:16:15PM +, Magnus Therning wrote: On 1/22/08, Duncan Coutts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 09:29 +, Magnus Therning wrote: I vaguely remember that in GHC 6.6 code like this length $ map ord a string being able able to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Has character changed in GHC 6.8?

2008-01-22 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 03:59:24PM +, Magnus Therning wrote: Yes, of course, stupid me. But it is still the UTF-8 representation of ö, not Latin-1, and this brings me back to my original question, is this an intentional change in 6.8? Yes (in 6.8.2, to be precise). It's in the release

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Poisx select support

2008-01-16 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:40:22PM -0800, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote: If something you need is missing from there, write it as a patch against the darcs repository for `unix', http://darcs.haskell.org/packages/unix/, and submit it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for inclusion in the next release of

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Gtk2HS and GHC 6.8.2

2008-01-12 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 06:50:02PM +0100, Peter Verswyvelen wrote: It seems GHC 6.8.2 fixes a couple of bugs in GHC 6.8.1, so I'm using that one. Gtk2HS does not yet detect my GHC 6.8.2 installation, but I guess it is 100% compatible. No, it's not binary-compatible. You'll need a Gtk2HS

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HsColour version confusion

2008-01-04 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 06:12:05PM +, Adrian Hey wrote: ..the latest version is 1.9. But the latest version in Hackage is 1.6, the latest version in the ftp downloads dir is 1.8, unless you want a pre-compiled windows version in which case you're stuck with 1.3 :-) The history looks like

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell performance

2007-12-23 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:58:17AM +, Malcolm Wallace wrote: Nobench does already collect code size, but does not yet display it in the results table. I specifically want to collect compile time as well. Not sure what the best way to measure allocation and peak memory use are? This:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Not sure where to send this: delivery failure to community.haskell.org

2007-12-13 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Magnus, On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:17:26AM +, Magnus Therning wrote: I received the following response when sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed: Thanks for letting us know. We've been having some trouble with community, and it

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Template Haskell examples?

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:21:40PM -0500, Brent Yorgey wrote: I'm looking for good examples of using Template Haskell to evaluate CAFs at compile time, e.g. if I have some expensive-to-calculate lookup table which I'd rather have evaluated at comile time and included in the executable as a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Why is this strict in its arguments?

2007-12-06 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 03:07:01PM -0800, Ryan Ingram wrote: Is there a reason why strictness is defined as f _|_ = _|_ instead of, for example, forall x :: Exception. f (throw x) = throw x There's discussion along these lines in http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/1171 Thanks

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: New slogan for haskell.org

2007-11-29 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:40:00PM +, Simon Marlow wrote: What I'd *really* like to see is a bunch of links on the front page leading to pages that describe the main differences between Haskell and some other language (C, Python, Java, C#, F#, ...). The easiest way to grasp what

Re: [Haskell-cafe] New slogan for haskell.org

2007-11-28 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:27:39AM +0100, Thomas Schilling wrote: Sorry, but are you talking of *one* homepage? This can all go into own wiki pages that are aimed at certain audiences, but this really can't all fit on the front page. I'm reminded of http://www.shiregames.com/shiregames/ We

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Downside of -fglasgow-extensions

2007-11-28 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:08:30PM +0100, Henning Thielemann wrote: type List = [] Although not wrong, it is not Haskell 98 It's valid Haskell 98 as far as I know. Advantages of listing the extensions used are * Cabal knows whether hugs, for example, can compile the package * Assuming

Re: [Haskell-cafe] about GADTs on ghci

2007-11-27 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 07:11:27PM +, Andrew Coppin wrote: I was under the impression that it's better to use the LANGUAGE pragma rather than the catch-all Glasgow-exts option. However, I can't actually find a language option for GADTs... somebody care to clarify? In GHC 6.8.1 it's

Re: [Haskell-cafe] question about ghci on windows ...

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 05:46:35PM -0600, Galchin Vasili wrote: I am reading through http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/index.html in particular the description of the boot libraries. I don't see how I can display function signatures from compiled code (i.e. .hi).

Re: [Haskell-cafe] question about ghci on windows ...

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 06:57:55PM -0600, Galchin Vasili wrote: I am trying to dump out all function signatures exported from System.Directory. I just tried inside ghci: :! ghc --show-iface System.Directory. Aha, use :browse System.Directory Thanks Ian

Re: [Haskell-cafe] -O2 bug in GHC 6.8.1?

2007-11-20 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Brad, On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 09:50:02PM +1000, Brad Clow wrote: $ ./test 23 24 I can't reproduce this. Can you please tell us what platform you are on (e.g. x86_64 Linux) and what gcc --version says? Also, where did your GHC come from, e.g. bindists from the download page,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ghc 6.8.1 bug?

2007-11-15 Thread Ian Lynagh
Can any of you give us a testcase for this, please? Thanks Ian ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: some links broken in 6.8.1 documentation

2007-11-14 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Daniil, On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 07:56:23PM +0300, Daniil Elovkov wrote: Do I understand it right that the idea of the split was letting all packages (possibly apart from base) emerge more or less independently from ghc releases? It's possible to install a newer version of a bootlib, and

Re: [Haskell-cafe] GHC 6.8.1 Documentation

2007-11-11 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Cale, On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 07:52:18PM -0500, Cale Gibbard wrote: Recently I noticed that all of my bookmarks to the hierarchical libraries documentation broke, and I'm not entirely happy with the solution of just correcting all the links to point at the new URLs since the URLs all

[Haskell-cafe] Re: some links broken in 6.8.1 documentation

2007-11-10 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Daniil, On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 03:49:54PM +0300, Daniil Elovkov wrote: A quick look at the 6.8.1 user's guide reveals some broken links: 1) Obtaining code coverage, pointing to http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/6.8.1/html/users_guide/hpc.html redirects to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: torrent for 6.8.1?

2007-11-04 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 05:52:08AM -0500, Cale Gibbard wrote: On 04/11/2007, Alex Tarkovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brad clawsie wrote: do torrents exist for 6.8.1? my experience is that people will use torrents if they are offered and they really do lift the pressure from the origin

Re: [Haskell-cafe] help needed packaging curl bindings

2007-10-31 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Brad, On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:10:17PM -0700, brad clawsie wrote: i have decided to take on the task of packaging-up (for hackage) and documenting the curl bindings as available here: http://code.haskell.org/curl/ if the originators of this code are reading this and do not wish me

Re: [Haskell-cafe] help needed packaging curl bindings

2007-10-31 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:35:42AM -0700, brad clawsie wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 01:36:40PM +, Ian Lynagh wrote: otherwise i was wondering if people had good examples to point me to for providing the cross-platform support needed for a FFI-based module such as this. i have made

Re: [Haskell-cafe] does the order of splice definitions matter in template haskell, or is this a bug?

2007-10-31 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Thomas, On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 03:27:20PM -0400, Thomas Hartman wrote: I have a situation where ... stuff... $(expose ['setState, 'getState] f = SetState compiles but f = SetState $(expose ['setState, 'getState] doesn't compile, with error: Not in scope: data constructor

Re: [Haskell-cafe] SYB3 codebase

2007-10-20 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 07:59:37PM +0200, Mads Lindstrøm wrote: http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/syb-with-class-0.3 (hereafter know as HappS-SYB3). HappS-SYB3 is based on the SYB3 code you mention, but the code has been changed quite a bit compared to using the

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: Trying to install binary-0.4

2007-10-17 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 12:54:12PM +0100, Simon Marlow wrote: I've written down the proposed policy for versioning here: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Package_versioning_policy This says: If [...] instances were added or removed, then the new A.B must be greater than the previous

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: Trying to install binary-0.4

2007-10-16 Thread Ian Lynagh
[would it be possible to pick a single list to discuss this on please, so there is no danger of some people missing some subthreads if they aren't on all the lists, or getting messages 3 times if they are?] On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:08:49PM +0100, Simon Marlow wrote: 2. Precise dependencies.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Is this a known problem?

2007-10-14 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi ok, On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:04:06AM +1300, ok wrote: UltraSPARC II, Solaris 2.10, gcc 4.0.4 (gccfss), Haskell GHC 6.6.1 binary release. The Sparc/Solaris ports has probably bitrotted. If you do an unregisterised build instead then it should work:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hosting of Haskell project

2007-10-14 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 05:05:28PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: I've almost reached a state where I wouldn't be ashamed of sharing the code so I looked into my options of free hosting. It seems I only have one option for publishing the code: - Request a project on code.haskell.org.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Filesystem questions

2007-10-14 Thread Ian Lynagh
Hi Yitzchak, On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 11:33:38AM +0200, Yitzchak Gale wrote: Here it is critical that ListT be taken from http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/ListT_done_right and not the broken implementation that comes with mtl. (Finally fixed in 6.8? Please?) mtl is not part of GHC

Re: [Haskell-cafe] PROPOSAL: Rename haskell@ to haskell-announce@

2007-09-24 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:00:40PM +0100, Claus Reinke wrote: in other words, people were meant to subscribe either to haskell or to haskell+haskell-cafe, and posting to haskell was meant to be a flag able to raise a topic briefly over the general din in haskell-cafe. Do people think that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Shouldnt this be lazy too?

2007-09-24 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 06:28:59PM +0200, apfelmus wrote: I mean, Haskell does not magically detect that the 32(64)-bit integer (10 + length [11..]) :: Int is bigger than 10 :: Int . That's partly because it's not true. There are arbitrarily large finite lists for which the equivalent is

Re: [Haskell-cafe] non POSIX/Win32 API support

2007-09-24 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 04:10:30PM -0500, Galchin Vasili wrote: I want to provide support for another OS. How are the POISIX modules implemented? E.g. in terms of Green Card? They use hsc2hs, the FFI and a splash of C. You can get the sources from this darcs repo:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Library Process (was Building production stable software in Haskell)

2007-09-19 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 11:05:05AM +0200, Johan Tibell wrote: Building Debian packages seems a bit hard to do for laymen like me. Anyone have a script that takes a .cabal file, some additional meta data and creates a .deb package? It would be really nice if we could make this procedure easier.

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] downtime for monk ({darcs, hackage, cvs}.haskell.org) Monday from 3pm UTC

2007-09-19 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 09:16:56AM +0100, Bayley, Alistair wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Lynagh The machine called monk ... will be down from 3pm UTC on Monday 24th for an OS and RAM upgrade. Do you have any estimate for how long

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Building production stable software in Haskell

2007-09-17 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 07:54:02AM -0700, David Roundy wrote: cabal-install may help, but what I'd really want is packaging in debian. That's my (biased, because I used debian) standard of a maintained, useful library. It's obviously a biased standard, but it isn't too hard for a package to

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