Re: [Haskell-cafe] GHC API + Cabal API + Cabal version checks: is there a way out?

2013-09-07 Thread JP Moresmau
) so that we have some basic proposal and momentum. On 07/09/13 00:04, JP Moresmau wrote: Oh, I'm happy to help as well if somebody is needed to do the change -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe

[Haskell-cafe] GHC API + Cabal API + Cabal version checks: is there a way out?

2013-09-06 Thread JP Moresmau
rewriting code that others have already written, and a maintenance nightmare with each Cabal release. So, do I have to wait a new release of GHC/Haskell Platform or is there a better solution? I suspect ghc-mod and other similar packages have the same issues. Thanks for any help! -- JP Moresmau http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] GHC API + Cabal API + Cabal version checks: is there a way out?

2013-09-06 Thread JP Moresmau
not be tied directly to a specific cabal version and you would not have to deal with this issue. [...] fyi, a similiar/related discussion took place few months ago on ghc-devs: http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/ghc-devs/2013-March/000800.html hth, hvr -- JP Moresmau http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] GHC API + Cabal API + Cabal version checks: is there a way out?

2013-09-06 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: haskell-src-exts 1.14.0

2013-08-20 Thread JP Moresmau
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[Haskell-cafe] Deriving with generics without values

2013-07-12 Thread JP Moresmau
a million! JP -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Deriving with generics without values

2013-07-12 Thread JP Moresmau
in SmallCheck: https://github.com/feuerbach/smallcheck/blob/master/Test/SmallCheck/Series.hs#L180 https://github.com/feuerbach/smallcheck/blob/master/Test/SmallCheck/Series.hs#L352 Roman * JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com [2013-07-12 10:45:39+0200] Hello all, My problem is the following: I

[Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: ig: bindings to Instagram Web Services API

2013-06-08 Thread JP Moresmau
and some other calls. It's very crude but can help you started. Grab it from Hackage, of course! Thanks! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Problem installing cabal-dev

2013-02-12 Thread JP Moresmau
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[Haskell-cafe] cabal-dev add-source

2013-02-08 Thread JP Moresmau
documentation. I change a file in P2 to use the new function, the compilation fails. If I check into the cabal-dev folder, I see the .hi file for my changed module has not been updated (old date). What am I missing? Thanks -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] cabal-dev add-source

2013-02-08 Thread JP Moresmau
wrote: You need to call cabal-dev add-source on P1 again to copy over the sdist, then do a cabal-dev install. See notes under Using a sandbox-local Hackage on https://github.com/creswick/cabal-dev On Feb 8, 2013 2:22 PM, JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying

Re: [Haskell-cafe] cabal-dev add-source

2013-02-08 Thread JP Moresmau
://github.com/creswick/cabal-dev With the new cabal sandboxing (due in 1.18) this won't be necessary as we create a link to the repo, instead of installing a copy. We will rebuild the linked repo as needed. -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Instead of Haskell running on the JVM is there a way for Haskell to call a JVM language ...

2012-11-19 Thread JP Moresmau
You may want to have a look at my little HJVM project on Github ( https://github.com/JPMoresmau/HJVM). Promise, I'll put in on Hackage some day. Basically it provides FFI wrappers and some c code to be able to start a JVM and call Java methods, etc from Haskell. -- JP Moresmau http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Panic loading network on windows (GHC 7.6.1)

2012-10-08 Thread JP Moresmau
, 05 Oct 2012 17:31:49 +0200, JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've installed Cabal and cabal-install 1.16 (which required network) on a new GHC 7.6.1 install and everything went well, except now when building a package requiring network I get: Loading package network-2.4.0.1

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: cabal-install-1.16.0 (and Cabal-1.16.0.1)

2012-10-05 Thread JP Moresmau
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[Haskell-cafe] Panic loading network on windows (GHC 7.6.1)

2012-10-05 Thread JP Moresmau
! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Panic loading network on windows (GHC 7.6.1)

2012-10-05 Thread JP Moresmau
Well, cabal-install installed and works fine. Not sure why on my own package that I'm trying to port to GHC 7.6 it doesn't work... I'll try to investigate further. Thanks JP On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Johan Tibell johan.tib...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM, JP Moresmau

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Summer of Code idea: Haskell Web Toolkit

2012-03-07 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Concurrency strategy for 2 threads and rare events

2012-02-15 Thread JP Moresmau
. It's cheaper than an MVar for the case where you don't need to lock multiple threads. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:45 PM, JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com wrote: No, I meant they seem to be mainly for the use case where the reading thread blocks for more input, and maybe there's a simpler/more

Re: [Haskell-cafe] GHC -WAll, -fwarn-unused-do-bind and Cabal

2012-02-15 Thread JP Moresmau
: On 12-02-14 03:01 PM, JP Moresmau wrote: I'm confused: I'm using GHC 7.0.2 and Cabal 1.10.1.0 with cabal-install 0.10.2. I use -Wall in my Cabal file. If I build a Haskell file with unused do binds, via the GHC API I get no warning, which is normal, since the doc states: The warnings

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell-Cafe Tag (was: Optimizations and parallel execution in the IO for a small spellchecker)

2012-02-15 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell-Cafe Tag (was: Optimizations and parallel execution in the IO for a small spellchecker)

2012-02-15 Thread JP Moresmau
OK, thanks all, I can stop worrying being an uncouth Frenchman, then... JP On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 14:49, JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com wrote: I was not aware that it was something a poster was supposed to do

[Haskell-cafe] GHC -WAll, -fwarn-unused-do-bind and Cabal

2012-02-14 Thread JP Moresmau
appreciated! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

[Haskell-cafe] Concurrency strategy for 2 threads and rare events

2012-02-08 Thread JP Moresmau
and there is, act on it, otherwise continue doing what it was currently doing. I suppose I could just tryTakeMVar on a MVar, but is there something more adapted to my needs? Thanks! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Concurrency strategy for 2 threads and rare events

2012-02-08 Thread JP Moresmau
of overkill. 2012/2/8 JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com Hello, I'm wondering what's the best strategy to use in the following scenario: - 2 threads  - One perform some work that will take time, possibly go on forever  - Another waits for user input (like commands from the keyboard) that affects

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ghc-api Static Semantics?

2012-02-06 Thread JP Moresmau
this approach. JP On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Thomas Schilling nomin...@googlemail.com wrote: On 26 January 2012 16:33, JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas, thank you for that explanation about the different type of identifiers in the different phases of analysis. I've never

Re: [Haskell-cafe] zlib 0.5.3.2 broken?

2012-02-01 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] ghc-api Static Semantics?

2012-01-26 Thread JP Moresmau
by the various phases, etc.  For example, if you want to generate code it's probably best to either generate HsModure RdrName or perhaps the Template Haskell API (never tried that path). / Thomas -- Push the envelope. Watch it bend. -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ghc-api Static Semantics?

2012-01-24 Thread JP Moresmau
would be the best option for me. There's also a question of having types in the AST as well. Have you looked at ghc-syb-utils, which gives a neat way to print an AST? http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/ghc-syb-utils/0.2.1.0/doc/html/GHC-SYB-Utils.html -- JP Moresmau http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Typechecking Using GHC API

2011-12-15 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage and cabal test support: why does it claim I have no type field when I do?

2011-10-22 Thread JP Moresmau
wrong? Thanks in advance, Doug ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Fwd: GHC as a library error.

2011-10-18 Thread JP Moresmau
: this was on a fresh install with latest stable GHC installer 7.2.1. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com

[Haskell-cafe] __GLASGOW_HASKELL__ macro in 7.2.1

2011-10-14 Thread JP Moresmau
(and the 7.2.1 code breaks under 7.0.3, of course) so I don't see anything other option than conditional compilation. What am I doing wrong? Thanks! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org

Re: [Haskell-cafe] __GLASGOW_HASKELL__ macro in 7.2.1

2011-10-14 Thread JP Moresmau
daniel.is.fisc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Friday 14 October 2011, 16:47:45, JP Moresmau wrote: Hello list, I must be doing something stupid, but what? ghc --version The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 7.2.1 ghc -E -optP-dM -cpp Main.hs (per http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest

Re: [Haskell-cafe] SSH in community.haskell.org

2011-10-13 Thread JP Moresmau
if this is not a strictly-related Haskell question. Daniel Díaz. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The best way to call Java from Haskell?

2011-10-11 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] The best way to call Java from Haskell?

2011-10-11 Thread JP Moresmau
-executable On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:15 AM, JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com wrote: I had started a project to start a JVM and call Java code from Haskell, but got sidetracked into EclipseFP, but I hope to go back to it someday. https://github.com/JPMoresmau/HJVM. Have a look at the test suite

[Haskell-cafe] ANN: EclipseFP 2.1.0 released

2011-09-02 Thread JP Moresmau
some bug fixes. Please go to http://eclipsefp.github.com/, the new website Alejandro designed for more information and installation instructions. Feedback welcome! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell

[Haskell-cafe] Generics (SYB) with parametrized types

2011-08-11 Thread JP Moresmau
. If I add some forall b1 . (Outputable ... in my main function signature it complains that I never use b1 anywhere else in the signature, of course. Is there a way to achieve what I want (-XOhPleaseDoWhatIwantEvenIfIamNotSureItMakesSense or something)? Thanks a million! -- JP Moresmau http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Server hosting

2011-05-06 Thread JP Moresmau
just for silly toy projects. What does everybody else use? ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RFC: Extendable and Easy-To-Use Logger (HLogger)

2011-04-13 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Could not deduce ... using functional dependencies with GHC7

2011-03-18 Thread JP Moresmau
[mailto:haskell-cafe-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf Of JP Moresmau Sent: 16 March 2011 21:46 To: Haskell Cafe Subject: [Haskell-cafe] Could not deduce ... using functional dependencies with GHC7 Hello, when moving to GHC7 a body of code that I'm not immensely familiar with, I got an error

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Could not deduce ... using functional dependencies with GHC7

2011-03-18 Thread JP Moresmau
is happy (and the code still seems to work as intended) thanks again JP On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Friday 18 March 2011 13:35:22, JP Moresmau wrote: These are GHC types, but here is a self-contained example: {-# LANGUAGE

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Cabal test interface, what/where is it?

2011-03-18 Thread JP Moresmau
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[Haskell-cafe] Could not deduce ... using functional dependencies with GHC7

2011-03-16 Thread JP Moresmau
prefer when error messages end with Possible fix:...! Thanks! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell IDE

2011-03-07 Thread JP Moresmau
workspace. Good luck, and if you're still confused feel free to contact me directly. JP On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM, David Virebayre dav.vire+hask...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/3 JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com: Hello, I'm one of the maintainers of EclipseFP. It is a real alternative

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell IDE

2011-03-03 Thread JP Moresmau
support was built but I haven't worked on it. -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell IDE

2011-03-02 Thread JP Moresmau
don't you give it a try? We appreciate any feedback! -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

[Haskell-cafe] Help!! Cannot get RandT and liftIO to work together...

2010-12-23 Thread JP Moresmau
signatures. No joy. Thanks for any help. -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Help!! Cannot get RandT and liftIO to work together...

2010-12-23 Thread JP Moresmau
Moresmau wrote: Hello all, sorry I must have taken my stupid pills this morning, I cannot get the following code to compile, what am I missing? Works here. Which versions of the packages and GHC are you using? -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Help!! Cannot get RandT and liftIO to work together...

2010-12-23 Thread JP Moresmau
daniel.is.fisc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2010 16:21:05, JP Moresmau wrote: GHC 6.12.1, base 4.2.0.0, MonadRandom-0.1.6, transformers-0..2.2.0, on Windows. Could it be that my system is not picking up the MonadIO I think it does? Probably. With 6.12.1, you'll probably have

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Parse Tree

2010-12-21 Thread JP Moresmau
). https://github.com/JPMoresmau/scion-- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Serguey Zefirov sergu...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/12/21 Jane Ren j2...@ucsd.edu: Does anyone know how to get the parse tree of a piece of Haskell code? Any recommended documentation

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Is EclipseFP alive?

2010-11-27 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Type Directed Name Resolution

2010-11-10 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] I still cannot seem to get a GUI working under Windows.

2010-09-29 Thread JP Moresmau
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Disable LINE Pragma handling in GHC

2010-09-12 Thread JP Moresmau
Users may not want to edit the files directly, but they'll be happy to be able to open them with proper syntax highlighting, for example. JP On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Henning Thielemann schlepp...@henning-thielemann.de wrote: JP Moresmau schrieb: Hello fellow Haskellers

[Haskell-cafe] Disable LINE Pragma handling in GHC

2010-09-10 Thread JP Moresmau
code, but have I missed something? Can I tell GHC to just ignore these pragmas? I suppose even using GHC for building and something else (haskell-src-exts?) for code handling would leave us with compilation messages at the wrong place. Thanks, -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Disable LINE Pragma handling in GHC

2010-09-10 Thread JP Moresmau
contents). JP On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Antoine Latter aslat...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:40 AM, JP Moresmau jpmores...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow Haskellers, In EclipseFP we use the GHC API for IDE related stuff like syntax highlighting and code outlines. However

[Haskell-cafe] Confused about ByteString, UTF8, Data.Text and sockets, still.

2010-09-03 Thread JP Moresmau
with this instead of the Word8 ByteStrings? In short, what's the fastest way to implement receiving/sending UTF8 text across sockets? Thanks for any pointer, -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How easy is it to hire Haskell programmers

2010-07-02 Thread JP Moresmau
programmers. It would also be useful to people who are interested in being hired as a Haskell programmer, so they know where to send the hitmen, I mean, what to do to improve. -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Has anybody tried to upgrade Cabal on HP (Win 7)

2010-06-18 Thread JP Moresmau
, that I got around by making sure every thing was installed with --global -- JP Moresmau http://jpmoresmau.blogspot.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

[Haskell-cafe] Order of arguments to GCC when building SDL on Windows with Cabal

2010-04-26 Thread JP Moresmau
to create the first exe required but build insists on rebuilding it even if present) 4. ...? The fact that some people managed seem to point with a problem with my config, but it's seems reasonnably clean to me, and I've even managed to install wxWidgets and wxHaskell... Any help appreciated! -- JP

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Best Editor In Windows

2009-10-16 Thread JP Moresmau
/JPMoresmau/scion.git). I'm using Windows myself. JP Moresmau ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe