[Haskell-cafe] Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml?
Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml? If so, can something be done about them? -- Regards, Casey ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml?
caseyh: Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml? If so, can something be done about them? Can you be more specific? Looking at the u64q shootout: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/benchmark.php?test=alllang=ghclang2=ocamlbox=1 Shows the two implementations tied for memory, and code size, but Haskell winning the speed tests more often. -- Don ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml?
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Casey Hawthorne cas...@istar.ca wrote: Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml? If so, can something be done about them? There are definitely some gotchas when it comes to performance, mostly in the realm of inadvertent space leaks and such. But that's just it, they are gotchas. A new haskeller will no doubt encounter them, but they are generally simple to fix. When Haskell and Ocaml are coded by their respective experts, I would, in general, trust Haskell to be faster. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml?
Casey Hawthorne wrote: Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml? As a five plus year veteran of Ocaml and a one year user of Haskell I would say in general no. However, Ocaml's strict evaluation makes it easy for someone new to the language to have a pretty accurate guess about its run time and memory usage something which can be difficult in the face of Haskell's lazy evaluation (not that I have experienced any obvious manifestations of this myself). Erik -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Are there major inefficiencies in Haskell compared to OCaml?
However, Ocaml's strict evaluation makes it easy for someone new to the language to have a pretty accurate guess about its run time and memory usage something which can be difficult in the face of Haskell's lazy evaluation (not that I have experienced any obvious manifestations of this myself). Erik Speaking as someone new to the language, this is one subject that confused me while reading RWH. They kept using the phrase space leak and I would think Well, I understand that with laziness one simple call could trigger an explosion of calculations but how is that a 'leak'? I had to go back and reread that section before I realized that the laziness was implemented as *runtime thunks* and I finally understood why they called it a leak. Looking back I think they did a good job explaining it after all, I just totally missed it the first time through. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
