Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage is down?

2012-08-12 Thread Henk-Jan van Tuyl
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:10:24 +0200, Justin Greene  
justin.j.gre...@gmail.com wrote:


Anyone have a download link for the haskell platform for windows?  I  
can't

find one with hackage down.



This link depends on the OS you are using; I found the Haskell Platform  
page in the Web Archive[0]. The downloads are at the Galois site[1].


Regards,
Henk-Jan van Tuyl


[0]  
http://web.archive.org/web/20110716180206/http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/

[1] http://lambda.galois.com/hp-tmp/2011.2.0.1/


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage is down?

2012-08-12 Thread Leonard Wörteler
Am 12.08.2012 08:14, schrieb Henk-Jan van Tuyl:
 [1] http://lambda.galois.com/hp-tmp/2011.2.0.1/

The current version is 2012.2.0.0, it can be found here:
http://lambda.haskell.org/platform/download/current/

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[Haskell-cafe] Hackage is down?

2012-08-11 Thread hanjoosten
Hi,

Hackage seems to be down. Is there anyone out here who knows how to get it
online again?

Thanks!



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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage is down?

2012-08-11 Thread Thomas DuBuisson
It will be down most of today - we are switching over to a new network
connection.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:31 AM, hanjoosten han.joos...@atos.net wrote:
 Hi,

 Hackage seems to be down. Is there anyone out here who knows how to get it
 online again?

 Thanks!



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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage is down?

2012-08-11 Thread Johan Tibell
+Malcom

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:31 AM, hanjoosten han.joos...@atos.net wrote:
 Hi,

 Hackage seems to be down. Is there anyone out here who knows how to get it
 online again?

 Thanks!



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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage is down?

2012-08-11 Thread Justin Greene
Anyone have a download link for the haskell platform for windows?  I can't
find one with hackage down.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Thomas DuBuisson 
thomas.dubuis...@gmail.com wrote:

 It will be down most of today - we are switching over to a new network
 connection.

 On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:31 AM, hanjoosten han.joos...@atos.net wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Hackage seems to be down. Is there anyone out here who knows how to get
 it
  online again?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 
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[Haskell-cafe] Hackage is down?

2012-07-12 Thread Edward Amsden
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/hackage.haskell.org

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage is down?

2012-07-12 Thread malcolm.wallace
The machine is undergoing disk checks after a hard reboot. Hopefully it will be back online soon.Regards,
MalcolmOn Jul 12, 2012, at 03:28 PM, Edward Amsden eca7...@cs.rit.edu wrote:http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/hackage.haskell.org  --  Edward Amsden Student Computer Science Rochester Institute of Technology www.edwardamsden.com  ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe___
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[Haskell-cafe] Hackage documentation down?

2012-02-23 Thread wren ng thornton

Hello all,

I posted a minor update to unix-bytestring a few days ago in order to 
deal with the Num not implying Eq thing in GHC 7.4, but it looks like 
the documentation still hasn't been made (nor the built-on field).


Are the Hackage builders down intentionally since the recent crash, or 
accidentally?


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-02 Thread Jochem Berndsen
??? ?? wrote:
 
 No no no!  Why not download the normal (signed) cabal list from the
 DHT (and optionally directly from hackage.haskell.org)?  These are all
 the packages that would appear on the website.  Why serve any other
 content?  All nodes in the DHT may check and make sure the file (or
 fragment) being served is properly signed.

 Any desire for popularity or tagging capability should be separate.
   
 Because single single hackage private key can be bruteforsed or stolen
 far easier than lots and lots keys of random people.

You only need to compromise one well-trusted key to compromise the system.

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[Haskell-cafe] Hackage still down?

2009-11-02 Thread Magnus Therning
It seems to have been down for at least the better part of today.  Is
it something worth worrying about?

/M

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage still down?

2009-11-02 Thread Don Stewart
magnus:
 It seems to have been down for at least the better part of today.  Is
 it something worth worrying about?

Summarising what we know:

* The machine that hosts darcs.haskell.org and
  hackage.haskell.org, has an increasing number of uncorrectable
  errors on its RAID drives.

* We will be purchasing a new server to replace monk.

* In the meantime, we're doing what we can to get it back up (the
  disks are fscking at the moment).

I'd expect it up shortly, and there will be an announcement about any
downtime as a result of the new server migration.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage still down?

2009-11-02 Thread Gregory Crosswhite
Of *course* your hard drives are getting damaged --- everyone knows  
that Raid only works on *real* bugs, not software bugs!  Spraying it  
on your hard drives to improve the quality of the libraries on Hackage  
is just silly!


- Greg


On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Don Stewart wrote:


magnus:

It seems to have been down for at least the better part of today.  Is
it something worth worrying about?


Summarising what we know:

   * The machine that hosts darcs.haskell.org and
 hackage.haskell.org, has an increasing number of uncorrectable
 errors on its RAID drives.

   * We will be purchasing a new server to replace monk.

   * In the meantime, we're doing what we can to get it back up (the
 disks are fscking at the moment).

I'd expect it up shortly, and there will be an announcement about any
downtime as a result of the new server migration.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Hackage still down?

2009-11-02 Thread Magnus Therning
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
 magnus:
 It seems to have been down for at least the better part of today.  Is
 it something worth worrying about?

 Summarising what we know:

    * The machine that hosts darcs.haskell.org and
      hackage.haskell.org, has an increasing number of uncorrectable
      errors on its RAID drives.

    * We will be purchasing a new server to replace monk.

    * In the meantime, we're doing what we can to get it back up (the
      disks are fscking at the moment).

 I'd expect it up shortly, and there will be an announcement about any
 downtime as a result of the new server migration.

Excellent.  Thanks for the update.

/M

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[Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Thomas Hartman
http://hackage.haskell.org
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Jochem Berndsen
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 07:58:00AM -0600, Thomas Hartman wrote:
 http://hackage.haskell.org

Hackage is down currently, I am seeding the torrent by mauke from IRC on 
http://mauke.ath.cx/tmp/2009-10-19-hackage-archive.torrent

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Don Stewart
This has been reported to the sysadmins.

tphyahoo:
 http://hackage.haskell.org
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Neil Mitchell
For future reference, if Hackage or community is down where should
that be reported to?

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
 This has been reported to the sysadmins.

 tphyahoo:
 http://hackage.haskell.org
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Don Stewart
I'd say,

community - dcoutts, Igloo, ijo...@galois.com
hackage.haskell.org/darcs.haskell.org - {dons,heinele...@galois.com

ndmitchell:
 For future reference, if Hackage or community is down where should
 that be reported to?
 
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
  This has been reported to the sysadmins.
 
  tphyahoo:
  http://hackage.haskell.org
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Daniel van den Eijkel

you saved my day!
thanks, daniel

Jochem Berndsen schrieb:

On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 07:58:00AM -0600, Thomas Hartman wrote:
  

http://hackage.haskell.org



Hackage is down currently, I am seeding the torrent by mauke from IRC on 
http://mauke.ath.cx/tmp/2009-10-19-hackage-archive.torrent


Cheers, Jochem
  

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Henning Thielemann



Jochem Berndsen schrieb:

On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 07:58:00AM -0600, Thomas Hartman wrote:


http://hackage.haskell.org


Hackage is down currently, I am seeding the torrent by mauke from IRC on 
http://mauke.ath.cx/tmp/2009-10-19-hackage-archive.torrent


Cool, is this the beginning of distributed Hackage? Still needs support in 
'cabal-install'.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread ??????? ??????

After some discussion in hask...@conference.jabber.ru, I've got this ideas:

+ Distributed hackage is DHT network.

+ Everything is PGP-signed.

+ Everyone can push package into network, everyone can rate package
(malicious / SPAM / unstable / stable / etc).

+ User maintains list of trusted people's open keys, in order to
validate authenticity and see trusted ratings.


Additional features:

+ Load balancing.

+ Ability to work through HTTP, trusted LAN peers, etc.


Sorry for my terrible English.



Cool, is this the beginning of distributed Hackage? Still needs 
support in 'cabal-install'.







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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Thomas DuBuisson
 + Distributed hackage is DHT network.

A DHT has been discussed before on IRC, glad to hear more people
voicing the thought.

 + Everything is PGP-signed.

Yes, that would certainly be needed and also came up in our discussion.


 + Everyone can push package into network, everyone can rate package
 (malicious / SPAM / unstable / stable / etc).

No no no!  Why not download the normal (signed) cabal list from the
DHT (and optionally directly from hackage.haskell.org)?  These are all
the packages that would appear on the website.  Why serve any other
content?  All nodes in the DHT may check and make sure the file (or
fragment) being served is properly signed.

Any desire for popularity or tagging capability should be separate.


 + User maintains list of trusted people's open keys, in order to
 validate authenticity and see trusted ratings.

This would need further explanation, but in general I'm against
requiring user interaction on this level.

Thomas
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread ??????? ??????



No no no!  Why not download the normal (signed) cabal list from the
DHT (and optionally directly from hackage.haskell.org)?  These are all
the packages that would appear on the website.  Why serve any other
content?  All nodes in the DHT may check and make sure the file (or
fragment) being served is properly signed.

Any desire for popularity or tagging capability should be separate.
  
Because single single hackage private key can be bruteforsed or stolen 
far easier than lots and lots keys of random people.



+ User maintains list of trusted people's open keys, in order to
validate authenticity and see trusted ratings.



This would need further explanation, but in general I'm against
requiring user interaction on this level.
You choose who's moderating packages for you. Some well-known community 
moderators and your trusted friends. If no one rated package yet, then 
you download and rate, so people who trust you can make decision based 
on your rate.

Kind of social network.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread Shelby Moore
Opportunity cost minimization problem:

 No no no!  Why not download the normal (signed) cabal list from the
 DHT (and optionally directly from hackage.haskell.org)?  These are all
 the packages that would appear on the website.  Why serve any other
 content?  All nodes in the DHT may check and make sure the file (or
 fragment) being served is properly signed.

 Any desire for popularity or tagging capability should be separate.

 Because single single hackage private key can be bruteforsed or stolen
 far easier than lots and lots keys of random people.



 + User maintains list of trusted people's open keys, in order to
 validate authenticity and see trusted ratings.

 This would need further explanation, but in general I'm against
 requiring user interaction on this level.
 You choose who's moderating packages for you. Some well-known community
 moderators and your trusted friends. If no one rated package yet, then
 you download and rate, so people who trust you can make decision based
 on your rate.
 Kind of social network.

In short, P2P introduces non-determinism.  Non-determinism is natural law
and otherwise order is not permanent (e.g. ends in non-composability,
errors, vulnerabilities, etc):

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2009-November/068432.html

What is needed is some way to set up upper bound to the level of
non-determinism in some useful domain:

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2009-October/068382.html
(space determinism in Haskell)

Which are really opportunity cost minimizations:

http://forum.bittorrent.org/viewtopic.php?id=28
(my architectural comments about BitTorrent free loading)

http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/technology-f8/computers-t112-15.htm#2189
(long winded, not so coherent brainstorming)
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] hackage is down.

2009-11-01 Thread scooter . phd
Untenable for many corporate users administratively prohibited from running 
any P2P software. First really creative use of a DHT I've seen in 6 years, 
kudos.

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Sent: Nov 1, 2009 19:57

Opportunity cost minimization problem:

 No no no!  Why not download the normal (signed) cabal list from the
 DHT (and optionally directly from hackage.haskell.org)?  These are all
 the packages that would appear on the website.  Why serve any other
 content?  All nodes in the DHT may check and make sure the file (or
 fragment) being served is properly signed.

 Any desire for popularity or tagging capability should be separate.

 Because single single hackage private key can be bruteforsed or stolen
 far easier than lots and lots keys of random people.



 + User maintains list of trusted people's open keys, in order to
 validate authenticity and see trusted ratings.

 This would need further explanation, but in general I'm against
 requiring user interaction on this level.
 You choose who's moderating packages for you. Some well-known community
 moderators and your trusted friends. If no one rated package yet, then
 you download and rate, so people who trust you can make decision based
 on your rate.
 Kind of social network.

In short, P2P introduces non-determinism.  Non-determinism is natural law
and otherwise order is not permanent (e.g. ends in non-composability,
errors, vulnerabilities, etc):

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2009-November/068432.html

What is needed is some way to set up upper bound to the level of
non-determinism in some useful domain:

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2009-October/068382.html
(space determinism in Haskell)

Which are really opportunity cost minimizations:

http://forum.bittorrent.org/viewtopic.php?id=28
(my architectural comments about BitTorrent free loading)

http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/technology-f8/computers-t112-15.htm#2189
(long winded, not so coherent brainstorming)
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