Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: TernaryTrees-0.1.1.1 - An efficient ternary tree implementation of Sets and Maps

2009-07-02 Thread wren ng thornton

Don Stewart wrote:

wren:

Alex Mason wrote:
TernaryTrees is a package that extends Data.Set ad Data.Map with some  
ternary tree structures, based on the article  
[http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3074/] .

For the string (or rather ByteString) version:

http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/bytestring-trie

Which has a number of other significant performance improvements (e.g.  
node fusion, ByteString instead of String) and a highly expressive  
interface. Because it uses ByteStrings it can trie any type which can be  
serialized into a vector of bits[1], albeit indirectly.


The real trick with tries is not in just having them[2], it's in having  
the right interface to make use of what they're good at. For example, if  
I have multiple tries, I'd like to merge them without doing it element  
by element[3]. Or if I know I'm going to be making a number of similar  
queries, it'd be nice if I could cache my position in the trie[4] to  
avoid repeating the work for the prefixes of all my queries[5]. Using  
tricks like these leads to significant improvements over using them like  
hashtables; tries aren't hashtables just like lists aren't arrays.


Do you have benchmarks?



Somewhere in my email archive (care of Mark Wotton). I'll see if I can 
dig them up this weekend. The biggest issue here is finding nice 
datasets (and tasks) to give reasonable benchmarks for. Reading in all 
of /usr/dict (or the Brown corpus) and looking up all keys only gives 
one perspective (or two), and not necessarily the most helpful one for 
real world use. I haven't found any good dataset/task suites like 
there are for the Language Benchmarks Game, though I'd love to hear 
about one.


The tries /= hashtables comment stems from discussions on various 
haskell blogs with people inventing their own (or wanting to benchmark 
Data.Map vs hashtables vs tries vs bloomfilters). As a drop-in 
replacement tries will perform adequately, but they're nothing 
overwhelming; the overwhelming comes from changing the usage algorithms 
to match the stride of the datastructure. I don't think I have links 
to these discussions anymore to pull up code examples.


--
Live well,
~wren
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[Haskell-cafe] ANN: TernaryTrees-0.1.1.1 - An efficient ternary tree implementation of Sets and Maps

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Mason
TernaryTrees is a package that extends Data.Set ad Data.Map with some  
ternary tree structures, based on the article [http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3074/ 
] .


So far there are three modules: Data.Set.TernarySet,  
Data.Map.TernaryMap and Data.Set.StringSet, which can hold `Ord a =  
[a]`, Ord a = [a] keys with b values, and Strings respectively. The  
interfaces for these types are very much like those of Data.{Set,Map},  
though not wuite as featurefull.


Later releases will also have a StringMap, and I'll update the  
TernaryMap to match the Set implementations more closely in a not too  
distant update.


Ternary trees are supposed to be one of the more efficient ways of  
storing strings in a set, and my testing of this package seems to  
support this (being able to insert 230,000+ words, check that all  
those words are actually in the set, write the set out to disk using  
the Data.Binary instance, reading them back in, and checking the old  
and new sets are equal takes about 3.5 seconds on my machine).


Included is a small example program that runs through the above  
sequence, and then asks the user to enter words to see if they're in  
the set, called tdict.


Please give it a try and let me know what you think, it's my first  
(hopefully) useful hackage package, and I'd love some feedback. There  
is also a darcs repo [http://random.axman6.com/darcs/TernaryTrees/],  
and any patches are welcome.


Cheers,
Alex Mason (Axman6)
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: TernaryTrees-0.1.1.1 - An efficient ternary tree implementation of Sets and Maps

2009-06-29 Thread Andrew Coppin

Alex Mason wrote:
TernaryTrees is a package that extends Data.Set ad Data.Map with some 
ternary tree structures, based on the article 
[http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3074/] .


That's just scary. I was just in the middle of writing the exact same 
thing! :-D (I read that very article...)


Please give it a try and let me know what you think, it's my first 
(hopefully) useful hackage package, and I'd love some feedback.


OK, will do...

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: TernaryTrees-0.1.1.1 - An efficient ternary tree implementation of Sets and Maps

2009-06-29 Thread Felipe Lessa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 03:29:45AM +1000, Alex Mason wrote:
 (being able to insert 230,000+ words, check that all those
 words are actually in the set, write the set out to disk using
 the Data.Binary instance, reading them back in, and checking
 the old and new sets are equal takes about 3.5 seconds on my
 machine).

It would be nice to know how much time the same test takes using
other kinds of containers.

--
Felipe.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: TernaryTrees-0.1.1.1 - An efficient ternary tree implementation of Sets and Maps

2009-06-29 Thread ajb

G'day all.

Quoting Andrew Coppin andrewcop...@btinternet.com:


That's just scary. I was just in the middle of writing the exact same
thing! :-D (I read that very article...)


When you're both done, please compare with the implementation that's
been in Edison for about five years:

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~rdockins/edison/edison-core/src/Data/Edison/Assoc/

If you've got something that's an improvement (and believe me, it
shouldn't be hard to improve on it), I'm sure that Rob would appreciate
a patch.

Cheers,
Andrew Bromage
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