Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-07 Thread Ketil Malde
david48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Didn't work for me : Installs fine, ghci works fine, but I get linking
 problems. ld complains about -lgmp

Did you try installing any of these?

  % apt-cache search libgmp
  libgmp3-dev - Multiprecision arithmetic library developers tools
  libgmp3c2 - Multiprecision arithmetic library

-k
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-07 Thread david48
On Nov 7, 2007 9:05 AM, Ketil Malde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 david48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Didn't work for me : Installs fine, ghci works fine, but I get linking
  problems. ld complains about -lgmp

 Did you try installing any of these?

   % apt-cache search libgmp
   libgmp3-dev - Multiprecision arithmetic library developers tools
   libgmp3c2 - Multiprecision arithmetic library

I have to admit that I didn't... Since it already worked with 6.6.1.
Anyways that dit it ( I was missing libgmp3-dev ), it works now.
Thanks !

David.
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[Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
Each year I give Linux a try. And usually I kick it off my harddrive after a
month, and stick to Windows. However, it does get better each year, so. 

 

So which kind Linux works best for running GHC (6.8.1) and related tools? (I
want to give Yi a go, I can't get it to work on Windows). Debian? Fedora?
Ubuntu?

 

This is most likely a very stupid question, but please understand I'm a
Windows user, so I'm supposed to be stupid J

 

Thanks,

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread Brian P. O'Hanlon
On Nov 6, 2007 2:04 PM, Peter Verswyvelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Each year I give Linux a try. And usually I kick it off my harddrive after a
 month, and stick to Windows. However, it does get better each year, so…

I have not used Windows since 98, but I am going to make the bigoted,
biased remark that Windows gets worse every year, so...




 So which kind Linux works best for running GHC (6.8.1) and related tools? (I
 want to give Yi a go, I can't get it to work on Windows). Debian? Fedora?
 Ubuntu?

I would recommend Fedora, probably, since a lot of the binary builds
seem to be done on Red Hat and Fedora machines, and it has been my
experience that it is quite new user friendly and its repositories
seemed up-to-date.  Installing and updating software is slow, though,
relatively speaking.
Ubuntu seems to be doing well, though, and a lot of new Linux converts
as well as users who have been using it for a while seem to like it a
lot, though, and since it is based on Debian's software management
system, software maintenance is second to none.  They do seem to lag a
little more with current software, though.

As for me, I use FreeBSD primarily, and when I use Linux, it is Debian.

Good luck; I hope that you find Linux to be comfortable and useful.




 This is most likely a very stupid question, but please understand I'm a
 Windows user, so I'm supposed to be stupid J

For a stupid question, it has certainly started many a flame war and
heated argument, and people still disagree greatly on it, so I would
not consider it such.  The next question you should ask is which text
editor to use...
-Brian
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread David Fox
On 11/6/07, Peter Verswyvelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So which kind Linux works best for running GHC (6.8.1) and related tools? (I
 want to give Yi a go, I can't get it to work on Windows). Debian? Fedora?
 Ubuntu?

I took an informal poll at this year's Haskell Hackathon, and well
over half were using some type of Debian based distribution, with a
majority of those using Ubuntu.  GHC 6.8.1 is not yet available in the
form of Debian packages, but I believe it will be shortly.

-david
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RE: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
 For a stupid question, it has certainly started many a flame war and
 heated argument, and people still disagree greatly on it, so I would

The French say Le goût et les couleurs, ça ne se discute as. I guess the same 
goes for operating systems...

 not consider it such.  The next question you should ask is which text
 editor to use...
 -Brian

No, I already had to switch to Emacs for doing Haskell development :) I still 
don’t really like it (I really should take the time to learn it properly, yes, 
ah, time, oh give me time...), but it's the best Haskell editor so far. So that 
will not change on Linux.

You mentioned FreeBSD... That could also be an option yes...

Thanks!



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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread Seth Gordon

Peter Verswyvelen wrote:
Each year I give Linux a try. And usually I kick it off my harddrive 
after a month, and stick to Windows. However, it does get better each 
year, so…


 

So which kind Linux works best for running GHC (6.8.1) and related 
tools? (I want to give Yi a go, I can’t get it to work on Windows). 
Debian? Fedora? Ubuntu?


I don't know which Linux distribution is best *for Haskell*, but in my 
experience, Ubuntu has been the best distribution for getting up and 
running on Linux without fuss.  The latest version lets you boot into 
Linux from a CD-ROM, so you can try it out and confirm that all your 
hardware is compatible before you touch anything on your hard drive.


I haven't tried 6.8.1 yet, but I have downloaded and used the 6.6.x 
binaries on an Ubuntu system back when the repositories were still using 
an earlier version.  I strongly suspect that if you got hold of 6.8.1 
packages that were built for Debian, they would also install on Ubuntu, 
but I haven't tried doing that yet.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread Felipe Lessa
On 11/6/07, Seth Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I strongly suspect that if you got hold of 6.8.1
 packages that were built for Debian, they would also install on Ubuntu,
 but I haven't tried doing that yet.

IME, this is very tricky to do right, even if the dependencies are the
same (e.g. libc). My advice is: if you want packages, get them for
your distro. If you haven't, compile from source or use generic
binaries on $HOME.

I've used Ubuntu for some time, until I got tired to wait 6 months for
new packages and switched to Debian Unstable. I'd say I'm happy now,
but I guess this unstable life isn't for a Linux newbie =).

-- 
Felipe.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Peter,

Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 10:04:02 PM, you wrote:
 So which kind Linux works best for running GHC (6.8.1) and related
 tools? (I want to give Yi a go, I can▓t get it to work on Windows). Debian? 
 Fedora? Ubuntu?

you are not too original - i've asked exactly the same question exactly
one year ago (best Linux for GHC? on 13 nov) :))

btw, you can install linux in virtual machine and use it inside
Windows. i does it in order to compile my program for Linux and think
about installing freebsd too :)


-- 
Best regards,
 Bulatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Docker
I can confirm that ghc-6.8.1 builds from source completely without fuss
on the latest ubuntu (7.10).

(... though it took a couple of hours of cpu time :-)

Tim

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Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

Peter Verswyvelen wrote:
 Each year I give Linux a try. And usually I kick it off my harddrive 
 after a month, and stick to Windows. However, it does get better each 
 year, so...
 
  
 
 So which kind Linux works best for running GHC (6.8.1) and related 
 tools? (I want to give Yi a go, I can't get it to work on Windows).
 Debian? Fedora? Ubuntu?

I don't know which Linux distribution is best *for Haskell*, but in my
experience, Ubuntu has been the best distribution for getting up and
running on Linux without fuss.  The latest version lets you boot into
Linux from a CD-ROM, so you can try it out and confirm that all your
hardware is compatible before you touch anything on your hard drive.

I haven't tried 6.8.1 yet, but I have downloaded and used the 6.6.x
binaries on an Ubuntu system back when the repositories were still using
an earlier version.  I strongly suspect that if you got hold of 6.8.1
packages that were built for Debian, they would also install on Ubuntu,
but I haven't tried doing that yet.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread Cale Gibbard
On 06/11/2007, Tim Docker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can confirm that ghc-6.8.1 builds from source completely without fuss
 on the latest ubuntu (7.10).

 (... though it took a couple of hours of cpu time :-)

 Tim

I can confirm that the generic x86 binary package for 6.8.1 works on
Ubuntu 7.10, provided that you use alien to install the
readline-compat RPM which is provided on the same page.

 - Cale
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best Linux for Haskell?

2007-11-06 Thread david48
On Nov 7, 2007 6:14 AM, Cale Gibbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 06/11/2007, Tim Docker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I can confirm that ghc-6.8.1 builds from source completely without fuss
  on the latest ubuntu (7.10).
 
  (... though it took a couple of hours of cpu time :-)
 
  Tim

 I can confirm that the generic x86 binary package for 6.8.1 works on
 Ubuntu 7.10, provided that you use alien to install the
 readline-compat RPM which is provided on the same page.

Didn't work for me : Installs fine, ghci works fine, but I get linking
problems. ld complains about -lgmp
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