- use windows API for requesting elevation during the process (ugly)
If it really has to be done, then this seems like the best approach. In
principle there's no problem with calling funky win32 functions in
Cabal, it's mostly a matter of working out what bahaviour we want and
what UAC
It is possible for an executable with less privileges to
shellexecute an executable that requires admin rights? Won't this
immediately raise an access denied or other security exception
again? Don't know, it might be possible, but it's worth to check it
out before going this route (which is rather
Hello Peter,
Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 1:24:26 PM, you wrote:
in order to protect from viruses and so now windows programs should be
split into two parts - one that doesn't need admin privileges and one
that needs them. as far as your actions doesn't need second part, you
are running first
Yes, I'm aware of that, but not the details, so thanks for the info.
Anyway, I quickly tested Regis's idea in C#, and it works as he said.
http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=9392#a9392
- When trying to create a folder in ProgramFiles, you get an access
denied exception, unless the
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 15:18 +0200, Regis Saint-Paul wrote:
One way in which cabal can be made UAC aware (and therefore request for
elevation privileges instead of just failing) would be to embed a manifest
in the cabal.exe. This can be done by changing the default manifest (an XML
file) that
Actually, this UAC was already present in Vista no?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Jeff Wheeler j...@nokrev.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Sebastian
Sylvansebastian.syl...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it's morally right to run as user by default. Yes, the windows
culture has some
Interestingly, a sudo for Windows does seem to exist. It's called the
runas command. At first sight it existed already since Windows XP
Also on Sourceforge an open source sudo command for Windows is hosted:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sudowin
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Peter
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 20:19 +0100, Sebastian Sylvan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Duncan Coutts
duncan.cou...@worc.ox.ac.uk wrote:
If the Windows users can come to a consensus on whether the
default should be global or user, then we can easily switch
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Duncan Coutts duncan.cou...@worc.ox.ac.uk
wrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 20:19 +0100, Sebastian Sylvan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Duncan Coutts
duncan.cou...@worc.ox.ac.uk wrote:
If the Windows users can come to a consensus on
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 21:18 -0500, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Sebastian
Sylvansebastian.syl...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it's morally right to run as user by default. Yes, the windows
culture has some legacy that may, on occasion, make it slightly harder to
use
2009/9/10 Sebastian Sylvan sebastian.syl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Duncan Coutts
duncan.cou...@worc.ox.ac.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 20:19 +0100, Sebastian Sylvan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Duncan Coutts
duncan.cou...@worc.ox.ac.uk wrote:
No Windows XP did not have support for roaming profiles yet I think.
But it wouldn't be too difficult to use %LOCALAPPDATA% first, and when
it doesn't exist, use %APPDATA%?
This article explains a lot about the differences; I didn't have time
yet to read it in detail
One way in which cabal can be made UAC aware (and therefore request for
elevation privileges instead of just failing) would be to embed a manifest
in the cabal.exe. This can be done by changing the default manifest (an XML
file) that is embedded at link time by GHC. This is supported by GHC
Hi Regis,
- use windows API for requesting elevation during the process (ugly)
Why is this ugly? This seems like an elegant solution, to get privileges only
when you actually need them?
Gr.
Matthijs
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Hello Matthijs,
Thursday, September 10, 2009, 5:24:57 PM, you wrote:
- use windows API for requesting elevation during the process (ugly)
Why is this ugly? This seems like an elegant solution, to get privileges only
when you actually need them?
afaik you need to run special COM server with
builds down to more
work and more platform specific code.
Cheers,
Regis
-Original Message-
From: Matthijs Kooijman [mailto:matth...@stdin.nl]
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2009 3:25 PM
To: Regis Saint-Paul
Cc: haskell-cafe@haskell.org; 'Duncan Coutts'
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Cabal
One last note as it may be confusing in previous message...I mention to use
windows API, but there is no API per-se that can elevate a process already
running. It takes to create another process which, at startup time, will
popup the elevation dialog. The win32 function to call is therefore just
Hello Regis,
Thursday, September 10, 2009, 6:05:19 PM, you wrote:
One last note as it may be confusing in previous message...I mention to use
windows API, but there is no API per-se that can elevate a process already
running. It takes to create another process which, at startup time, will
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 09:58 -0500, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Peter Verswyvelenbugf...@gmail.com wrote:
Ouch, right, I forgot the default is global. It works fine with cabal
install --user. And of course I could have edited the default config
file, setting
Yes, it's true that most people tended to be administrators on their
own Windows desktops, but since Vista, this has changed.
Now in Vista, some people still forced admin rights, to get rid of the
many annoying dialog boxes that popped up for every tiny task that
might be a security breach.
But
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 16:59 +0200, Peter Verswyvelen wrote:
Yes, it's true that most people tended to be administrators on their
own Windows desktops, but since Vista, this has changed.
Now in Vista, some people still forced admin rights, to get rid of the
many annoying dialog boxes that
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Duncan Coutts
duncan.cou...@worc.ox.ac.ukwrote:
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 09:58 -0500, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Peter Verswyvelenbugf...@gmail.com
wrote:
Ouch, right, I forgot the default is global. It works fine with cabal
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Sebastian
Sylvansebastian.syl...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it's morally right to run as user by default. Yes, the windows
culture has some legacy that may, on occasion, make it slightly harder to
use well behaved programs, but it's fairly minor these days.
I
I tried the cabal install command on Windows 7, and I had to run it
with administrative privileges, otherwise I got access denied (it
failed to create the Haskell folder in C:\Program Files)
Not sure if this is also the case on Vista.
Is this the intended behavior?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Peter Verswyvelenbugf...@gmail.com wrote:
Ouch, right, I forgot the default is global. It works fine with cabal
install --user. And of course I could have edited the default config
file, setting user-install: True
Well, maybe for newbies this might be a bit
Ouch, right, I forgot the default is global. It works fine with cabal
install --user. And of course I could have edited the default config
file, setting user-install: True
Well, maybe for newbies this might be a bit confusing.
Typically, under Windows Vista or 7 when you try to install something
Might it make sense to try and get the concept of global and user
working in Windows? (It may already, but I noticed that the default seems to
be global.)
I don't know what technical challenges there are, but the ApplicationData
directory (or AppData, or whatever) seems like a good place to stick
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