Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 18:33 schrieben Sie: > Interesting. Thanks for the reply. > > It might be nice to have some performance benchmarks for all these > experimental systems, so we can compare them. I think, the most important thing is the asymptotical time behavior, e.g., whether the ti

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-02-07 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
l-cafe- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Jeltsch > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:25 PM > To: haskell-cafe@haskell.org > Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now > publicly available > > Hello Peter, > > an answer to an

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Hello Peter, an answer to an “old” e-mail (from January 25). Sorry for not answering earlier. Am Freitag, 25. Januar 2008 00:23 schrieben Sie: > Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > > Indeed. A functional approach to GUIs is nice but at the moment we don’t > > have anything that is suitable for solving r

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-24 Thread Conal Elliott
Afaik, you're right about Yampa not being event-driven. I've been working on alternatives for a while that are event-driven while still genuinely functional (non-IO). See http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Reactive and http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/TV . I have some blog posts in the works about the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-24 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Indeed. A functional approach to GUIs is nice but at the moment we don’t have anything that is suitable for solving real world problems (although this is being worked on). Could you elaborate a bit on that? What are the current obstacles to be solved? When I looked at

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-24 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Mittwoch, 23. Januar 2008 10:53 schrieben Sie: > Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > > Covering reactive programming would indeed be interesting. > > > > I want to add that there is no single way for doing reactive programming > > in Haskell. There is Conal’s stuff, there is Yampa and there is “my” > > s

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-23 Thread Jon Harrop
On Tuesday 22 January 2008 14:30:22 Bryan O'Sullivan wrote: > Paul Moore wrote: > > I'm posting here because there doesn't seem to be an "overall" comment > > section, but the TOC seems to cover less ground than I expected. Is > > the TOC meant to be complete? > > No, it's less than a third of the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-23 Thread Dan Weston
I think this points out the benefit (or even the need), given the fast-paced evolution of Haskell and its libraries as a whole, of an evolving online supplement to your book, minimally with errata and code, but also (as publisher resources permit) with intermittently updated appendices on still

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-23 Thread Bryan O'Sullivan
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: > Covering reactive programming would indeed be interesting. I agree. However, we have no plans to cover this topic. I don't believe any of us has used FRP, and my impression of it as an approach is that it's not yet cooked. We already have our hands and TOC full coveri

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-23 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Covering reactive programming would indeed be interesting. I want to add that there is no single way for doing reactive programming in Haskell. There is Conal’s stuff, there is Yampa and there is “my” stuff (Grapefruit [1]) whereby the pros and cons of these approaches

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-22 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Dienstag, 22. Januar 2008 15:58 schrieb Peter Verswyvelen: > Wow, the full TOC looks very impressive indeed! Maybe add a chapter > about reactive programming (Yampa and Conal's latest stuff that I don't > understand yet) too? :-) > > Cheers, > Peter Covering reactive programming would indeed be

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-22 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
Wow, the full TOC looks very impressive indeed! Maybe add a chapter about reactive programming (Yampa and Conal's latest stuff that I don't understand yet) too? :-) Cheers, Peter Bryan O'Sullivan wrote: Paul Moore wrote: I'm posting here because there doesn't seem to be an "overall" comm

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-22 Thread Paul Moore
On 22/01/2008, Bryan O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Moore wrote: > > > I'm posting here because there doesn't seem to be an "overall" comment > > section, but the TOC seems to cover less ground than I expected. Is > > the TOC meant to be complete? > > No, it's less than a third of the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-22 Thread Bryan O'Sullivan
Paul Moore wrote: > I'm posting here because there doesn't seem to be an "overall" comment > section, but the TOC seems to cover less ground than I expected. Is > the TOC meant to be complete? No, it's less than a third of the whole thing. Here's the announcement from last May, including a more

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-22 Thread Paul Moore
On 21/01/2008, Bryan O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John, Don and I are pleased to announce the beginning of the public beta > programme for our upcoming book, "Real World Haskell". For further > details, please see the following blog entry: > > http://www.realworldhaskell.org/blog/2008/0

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-21 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Montag, 21. Januar 2008 20:53 schrieb Bryan O'Sullivan: > John, Don and I are pleased to announce the beginning of the public beta > programme for our upcoming book, "Real World Haskell". For further > details, please see the following blog entry: > > http://www.realworldhaskell.org/blog/2008/0

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-21 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
Oops, I just replied to another message asking for such a book! Amazing that my prayers are answered even before I asked them ;-) Peter On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 11:53 -0800, B ryan O'Sullivan wrote: > John, Don and I are pleased to announce the beginning of the public beta > programme for our upc

[Haskell-cafe] Draft chapters of "Real World Haskell" now publicly available

2008-01-21 Thread Bryan O'Sullivan
John, Don and I are pleased to announce the beginning of the public beta programme for our upcoming book, "Real World Haskell". For further details, please see the following blog entry: http://www.realworldhaskell.org/blog/2008/01/21/finally-the-public-beta-programme-begins/ Thanks to all of the