Re: [Haskell-cafe] Getting used and available memory

2010-04-28 Thread Mads Lindstrøm
Hi

On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 14:55 -0700, Don Stewart wrote:
 We could bind to Rts.c in the GHC runtime, and get all the stats
 programmatically that you can get with +RTS -s

That would be nice.


/Mads

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[Haskell-cafe] Getting used and available memory

2010-04-27 Thread Mads Lindstrøm
Hi

I have tried haskell.org, Google and Hoolge, but I cannot find any
function to give me the available and/or used memory of a Haskell
program. Is it just not there? Or am I missing it somehow?


/Mads


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Getting used and available memory

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Peebles
It's not an easy measurement to even define. There was a huge debacle
recently about a windows program that reported misleading numbers about used
memory. The fact that GHC has its own allocator and hogs OS memory (it
never returns it to the OS) might complicate the definition further. But in
general, if you're looking for an OS-level measure you're probably going to
need to go to the FFI and talk to the specific OS's API for the task. I'm
not sure if the GHC runtime allows you to ask much about allocated memory.
The only thing I've done with it was FFI out to a variable that counts the
number of bytes allocated to measure allocations in calls like GHCi does.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Mads Lindstrøm
mads.lindstr...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 I have tried haskell.org, Google and Hoolge, but I cannot find any
 function to give me the available and/or used memory of a Haskell
 program. Is it just not there? Or am I missing it somehow?


 /Mads


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Getting used and available memory

2010-04-27 Thread Mads Lindstrøm
Hi

I was _not_ looking for the OS-level measure, but rather something
reported by the run-time. Thanks you for the answer anyway.

/Mads

On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 15:32 -0400, Daniel Peebles wrote:
 It's not an easy measurement to even define. There was a huge debacle
 recently about a windows program that reported misleading numbers
 about used memory. The fact that GHC has its own allocator and hogs
 OS memory (it never returns it to the OS) might complicate the
 definition further. But in general, if you're looking for an OS-level
 measure you're probably going to need to go to the FFI and talk to the
 specific OS's API for the task. I'm not sure if the GHC runtime allows
 you to ask much about allocated memory. The only thing I've done with
 it was FFI out to a variable that counts the number of bytes allocated
 to measure allocations in calls like GHCi does. 
 
 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Mads Lindstrøm
 mads.lindstr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have tried haskell.org, Google and Hoolge, but I cannot find
 any
 function to give me the available and/or used memory of a
 Haskell
 program. Is it just not there? Or am I missing it somehow?
 
 
 /Mads
 
 
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Getting used and available memory

2010-04-27 Thread Don Stewart
We could bind to Rts.c in the GHC runtime, and get all the stats
programmatically that you can get with +RTS -s

mads.lindstroem:
 Hi
 
 I was _not_ looking for the OS-level measure, but rather something
 reported by the run-time. Thanks you for the answer anyway.
 
 /Mads
 
 On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 15:32 -0400, Daniel Peebles wrote:
  It's not an easy measurement to even define. There was a huge debacle
  recently about a windows program that reported misleading numbers
  about used memory. The fact that GHC has its own allocator and hogs
  OS memory (it never returns it to the OS) might complicate the
  definition further. But in general, if you're looking for an OS-level
  measure you're probably going to need to go to the FFI and talk to the
  specific OS's API for the task. I'm not sure if the GHC runtime allows
  you to ask much about allocated memory. The only thing I've done with
  it was FFI out to a variable that counts the number of bytes allocated
  to measure allocations in calls like GHCi does. 
  
  On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Mads Lindstrøm
  mads.lindstr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
  
  I have tried haskell.org, Google and Hoolge, but I cannot find
  any
  function to give me the available and/or used memory of a
  Haskell
  program. Is it just not there? Or am I missing it somehow?
  
  
  /Mads
  
  
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Getting used and available memory

2010-04-27 Thread Bernie Pope
On 27 April 2010 17:55, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
 We could bind to Rts.c in the GHC runtime, and get all the stats
 programmatically that you can get with +RTS -s

A long time ago I made a simple binding which has been packaged for
cabal by Gwern Branwen. The package is called highWaterMark:

   http://hackage.haskell.org/package/highWaterMark

As the name suggests it tells you the upper limit of RTS allocated
memory. It does not tell you about memory allocated by foreign calls.

I can't test it at the moment, but it is probably bit-rotten.

Maybe it is something to start with?

Cheers,
Bernie.
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