RE: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-16 Thread Bayley, Alistair
From: haskell-cafe-boun...@haskell.org [mailto:haskell-cafe-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf Of John Meacham On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 08:55:51PM +, Lennart Augustsson wrote: That was indeed my point. Since a compiler is a substantial program I would have more confidence it a compiler

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-14 Thread Henning Thielemann
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, John Meacham wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 08:55:51PM +, Lennart Augustsson wrote: That was indeed my point. Since a compiler is a substantial program I would have more confidence it a compiler that is self-hosting. Surely you must have tried? No, there are

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-13 Thread John Meacham
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:47:43PM -0500, Lennart Augustsson wrote: Do you use jhc when you develop jhc? I.e., does it compile itself. For me, this is the litmus test of when a compiler has become usable. I mean, if even the developers of a compiler don't use it themselves, why should anyone

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-13 Thread Neil Mitchell
Hi John, Do you use jhc when you develop jhc?  I.e., does it compile itself. For me, this is the litmus test of when a compiler has become usable. I mean, if even the developers of a compiler don't use it themselves, why should anyone else? :) Well, this touches on another issue, and that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-13 Thread Lennart Augustsson
Thanks Neil, That was indeed my point. Since a compiler is a substantial program I would have more confidence it a compiler that is self-hosting. Surely you must have tried? -- Lennart On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Neil Mitchell ndmitch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Do you use jhc when

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-13 Thread John Meacham
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 08:55:51PM +, Lennart Augustsson wrote: That was indeed my point. Since a compiler is a substantial program I would have more confidence it a compiler that is self-hosting. Surely you must have tried? No, there are extensions that I use in jhc's code base that jhc

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-11 Thread John Meacham
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:41:54PM -0800, Philippos Apolinarius wrote: I discovered a Haskell compiler that generates very small and fast code. In fact, it beats Clean. It has the following properties: Excellent. that was my goal ;) 1 --- One can cross-compile programs easily. For instance,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-11 Thread Lennart Augustsson
John, Do you use jhc when you develop jhc? I.e., does it compile itself. For me, this is the litmus test of when a compiler has become usable. I mean, if even the developers of a compiler don't use it themselves, why should anyone else? :) -- Lennart On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:37 AM, John

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-11 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth Lennart Augustsson lenn...@augustsson.net, Do you use jhc when you develop jhc? I.e., does it compile itself. For me, this is the litmus test of when a compiler has become usable. I mean, if even the developers of a compiler don't use it themselves, why should anyone else? :) Though

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-11 Thread Lennart Augustsson
If by minority platform you mean platforms that are resource starved, like some embedded systems, then I would have to agree. -- Lennart On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Donn Cave d...@avvanta.com wrote: Quoth Lennart Augustsson lenn...@augustsson.net, Do you use jhc when you develop jhc?  

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-11 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth Lennart Augustsson lenn...@augustsson.net, If by minority platform you mean platforms that are resource starved, like some embedded systems, then I would have to agree. Like anything but the platform the compiler developer(s) use. If you used a platform like that, you would certainly

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-11 Thread Philippos Apolinarius
]   putStrLn (show (xx::Tree)) I hope you can fix it. --- On Wed, 11/11/09, John Meacham j...@repetae.net wrote: From: John Meacham j...@repetae.net Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC To: haskell-cafe@haskell.org Received: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 1:37 AM On Tue, Nov 10, 2009

[Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-10 Thread Philippos Apolinarius
I discovered a Haskell compiler that generates very small and fast code. In fact, it beats Clean. It has the following properties: 1 --- One can cross-compile programs easily. For instance, here is how I generated code for Windows: jhc --cross -mwin32 genetic.hs -o genetic 2 -- It seems to be

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Opinion about JHC

2009-11-10 Thread Thomas DuBuisson
1 -- How active is the team who is writing the JHC compiler? The Team is John and Its not his day job afaik. Lemmih used to work on it before he forked it into LHC which has since evolved into a new (GRIN based) backend for GHC [1]. 2 -- Is it complete Haskell? The author claims that it is;