Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-07-17 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 15:27 schrieben Sie: On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: [redirecting to haskell-cafe] Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2009 00:25 schrieben Sie: Hi Wolfgang, I was wondering if I can use FLTK as GUI backend for Grapefruit? This should be possible in

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-07-17 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Hello Jeff, it’s been some time that we had the conversation below and I have to tell you the same thing I told Jamie in a haskell-cafe mail sent a few minutes ago: The student who wrote the Qt binding generator never managed to send me a final version of his code. At least, I was able to make

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-18 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 19:36 schrieben Sie: If you have problems with Gtk2Hs on Windows, it might be better to write a Win32-based backend for Grapefruit instead of a wxWidgets-based one. What do you think about that? Win32-based backend would make more sense as it is one less layer

Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-18 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Wolfgang, Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 12:17:16 PM, you wrote: Win32-based backend would make more sense as it is one less layer to deal with. But how? Same thing with Mac. A student of mine wrote a fully automatic binding generator for C++ libraries which also supports Qt extensions

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-18 Thread Jeff Heard
When he gives you the code, could you let me know? I would really love to bind Open Scene Graph, but it's entirely C++ and that makes for a lot more difficult coding to say the least. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Wolfgang Jeltsch g9ks1...@acme.softbase.org wrote: Am Dienstag, 17. Februar

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-18 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2009 15:42 schrieben Sie: When he gives you the code, could you let me know? I would really love to bind Open Scene Graph, but it's entirely C++ and that makes for a lot more difficult coding to say the least. Yes, I will let you know. Best wishes, Wolfgang

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-17 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 22:04 schrieben Sie: As for how I want Hieroglyph to work interactively, I think the easiest way is to react to the input data considered as a coherent whole. The semantic model for visualization is that a Visualization is a function from Data to Visual. Hmm,

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-17 Thread Henk-Jan van Tuyl
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:19:09 +0100, Wolfgang Jeltsch g9ks1...@acme.softbase.org wrote: If you have questions, applause or criticism, please get in touch with me. Wolfgang Jeltsch Principal Grapefruit developer I'm glad that FRP isn't still alive and kicking. I hope you will support

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-17 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 17:18 schrieben Sie: I'm glad that FRP isn't still alive and kicking. You are glad that FRP is *not* alive? Okay, this was a typo, wasn’t it? ;-) I hope you will support wxHAskell in the near future. I tried wxFruit and I liked it, but it isn't complete and it

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-17 Thread Jamie
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 17:18 schrieben Sie: I'm glad that FRP isn't still alive and kicking. You are glad that FRP is *not* alive? Okay, this was a typo, wasn’t it? ;-) I hope you will support wxHAskell in the near future. I tried

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
[redirecting to haskell-cafe] Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2009 23:13 schrieben Sie: Great, does it run well on Windows and Mac platforms in addition to Linux platform which should run fine? Actually, I have no idea. ;-) Well, Grapefruit is a pure Haskell library without any own binding to C

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
[redirecting to haskell-cafe] Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2009 00:25 schrieben Sie: Hi Wolfgang, I was wondering if I can use FLTK as GUI backend for Grapefruit? This should be possible in principal. It just could be that my assumptions about how widgets are created and composed were too tight

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
[redirecting to haskell-cafe] Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2009 00:26 schrieben Sie: One more thing, would Grapefruit work with files created by Glade (UI builder)? No, it won’t, I’m afraid. There is, for example, the principal problem that Glade is GTK+-specific (as far as I know) while

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Wolfgang == Wolfgang Jeltsch g9ks1...@acme.softbase.org writes: Wolfgang This would be really great. Writing applications with Wolfgang Grapefruit gives me useful feedback and pressure for Wolfgang improvement. Note that currently the set of supported Wolfgang widgets is very low

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Jamie
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: [redirecting to haskell-cafe] Am Samstag, 14. Februar 2009 23:13 schrieben Sie: Great, does it run well on Windows and Mac platforms in addition to Linux platform which should run fine? Actually, I have no idea. ;-) Well, Grapefruit is a pure

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Jamie
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: [redirecting to haskell-cafe] Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2009 00:25 schrieben Sie: Hi Wolfgang, I was wondering if I can use FLTK as GUI backend for Grapefruit? This should be possible in principal. It just could be that my assumptions about how

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Jamie
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: [redirecting to haskell-cafe] Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2009 00:26 schrieben Sie: One more thing, would Grapefruit work with files created by Glade (UI builder)? No, it won’t, I’m afraid. There is, for example, the principal problem that Glade is

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 15:13 schrieben Sie: So I have an application that I am developing. The UI module includes the following: import Graphics.UI.Gtk import Graphics.Rendering.Cairo import Graphics.Rendering.Cairo.SVG import Graphics.UI.Gtk.Gdk.EventM Can you tell from that list if

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Gour
Wolfgang == Wolfgang Jeltsch g9ks1...@acme.softbase.org writes: Hello Wolfgang, congratulation for your Grapefruit release! Wolfgang This would be really great. Writing applications with Wolfgang Grapefruit gives me useful feedback and pressure for Wolfgang improvement. Note that currently the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
2009/2/16 Gour g...@mail.inet.hr Do you anticipate that Grapefruit will be capable for writing real-world GUI apps quit soon? LOL. Funny typo. If the apps quit soon we're in trouble! :-) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Jeff Heard
I would actually quite like to integrate Hieroglyph with Grapefruit, which would give you your Cairo support and give me a sensible way to implement events outside of my really rather broken model. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Wolfgang Jeltsch g9ks1...@acme.softbase.org wrote: Am Montag,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Peter == Peter Verswyvelen bugf...@gmail.com writes: Peter 2009/2/16 Gour g...@mail.inet.hr Do you anticipate that Grapefruit will be capable for writing real-world GUI apps quit soon? Peter LOL. Funny typo. If the apps quit soon we're in trouble! Peter :-) Nay - it just

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Gour
Peter == Peter Verswyvelen bugf...@gmail.com writes: Peter LOL. Funny typo. If the apps quit soon we're in trouble! :-) Well, let's do some LOL-ing on my own account... Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
I apologize, I did not mean to be rude at all, I found it a great typo to summarize the previous attempts for doing fully functional GUIs in Haskell. 2009/2/16 Gour g...@mail.inet.hr Peter == Peter Verswyvelen bugf...@gmail.com writes: Peter LOL. Funny typo. If the apps quit soon we're in

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 16:43 schrieb Peter Verswyvelen: 2009/2/16 Gour g...@mail.inet.hr Do you anticipate that Grapefruit will be capable for writing real-world GUI apps quit soon? LOL. Funny typo. If the apps quit soon we're in trouble! :-) I’m sure that current Grapefruit

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 16:27 schrieb Gour: Do you anticipate that Grapefruit will be capable for writing real-world GUI apps quit soon? I have no concrete anticipation. It depends very much on the community. If there is notable interest and this interest makes people hacking on

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 17:46 schrieb Wolfgang Jeltsch: Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 16:27 schrieb Gour: Do you anticipate that Grapefruit will be capable for writing real-world GUI apps quit soon? I have no concrete anticipation. It depends very much on the community. If there is

Re: Fwd: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 18:05 schrieb Fraser Wilson: I'd love to hack on Grapefruit. That’s great! I'll do some study (and take a break from my own world-changing functional GUI :-) I tried to check out your repository at http://thewhitelion.org/darcs/barrie/ but darcs get failed

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Fraser Wilson
Yeah, I lack some darcs fu unfortunately. I understood it was just a matter of copying a repository. I'll have a look, and by have a look I mean bother #haskell :-) Cheers, Fraser Sent from my iPhone On 16 feb 2009, at 18:51, Wolfgang Jeltsch g9ks1...@acme.softbase.org wrote: Am

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 19:08 schrieben Sie: Yeah, I lack some darcs fu unfortunately. I understood it was just a matter of copying a repository. I'll have a look, and by have a look I mean bother #haskell :-) If you don’t use this lazy fetch feature (or whatever it is called) then you

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release

2009-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 19:27 schrieben Sie: Ah. Copy, don't darcs get. If you copy a repository which was itself fetched from somewhere using this lazy patch fetching feature, you’ll probably experience problems too. If it’s the repository you work in and you never fetched any patches