Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-02-01 Thread Benjamin L. Russell
Here in Japan, it's pronounced in four syllables with no accent, as follows: Hah (as in Hah, I see.) Sue (as in the name) Ke (as in the first syllable of ketchup) Ru (as in the first syllable of Lucas, since there is no difference between l and r sounds in Japanese) Put together, it sounds as

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread jerzy . karczmarczuk
Tim Chevalier(*) writes: I think to ease the acceptance of Haskell in the broader world, we should just change the name to Schönfinkel. On the other hand, is better not to try Curry, since the French pronounce it: Queue-rhrhrh. This is for me absolutely inacceptable and scandalous, since

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, is better not to try Curry, since the French pronounce it: Queue-rhrhrh. This is for me absolutely inacceptable and scandalous, since thus, they confuse him with Madame Curie, who was Polish, and I am a patriot. And

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/29/08, PR Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know Haskell was an English name. Haskell Curry was an American, and I think the usual convention is to pronounce names in the manner of the language that the person who has the name speaks. (Preferably just to pronounce people's names the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread PR Stanley
At 16:16 29/01/2008, you wrote: Am Dienstag, 29. Januar 2008 02:25 schrieb Tim Chevalier: On 1/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unless you are French. Then you don't pronounce H. The remaining letters are pronounced according to the Règlements de l'Académie.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Dienstag, 29. Januar 2008 02:25 schrieb Tim Chevalier: On 1/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unless you are French. Then you don't pronounce H. The remaining letters are pronounced according to the Règlements de l'Académie. Fair enough. I wouldn't want to be

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Arnar Birgisson
On Jan 29, 2008 1:45 PM, Yitzchak Gale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Hudak wrote: Well, Haskell was Curry's first name, so perhaps we should use Moses, which was Schönfinkel's first name, and has some nice biblical metaphors :-) Haskell is fine for that. In Biblical Hebrew, it means

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Yitzchak Gale
Paul Hudak wrote: Well, Haskell was Curry's first name, so perhaps we should use Moses, which was Schönfinkel's first name, and has some nice biblical metaphors :-) Haskell is fine for that. In Biblical Hebrew, it means enlightenment or insight. -Yitz

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Paul Hudak
Well, Haskell was Curry's first name, so perhaps we should use "Moses", which was Schönfinkel's first name, and has some nice biblical metaphors :-)     -Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Chevalier(*) writes: I think to ease the acceptance of Haskell in the broader world, we should

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Paulo Tanimoto
Jerzy, keep posting, I'm enjoying this magic cultural trip. : ) Obrigado, Paulo Tanimoto (pronounce it as you please) On Jan 29, 2008 10:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Chevalier writes: ... I think the usual convention is to pronounce names in the manner of the language that the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Anton van Straaten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Chevalier writes: ... I think the usual convention is to pronounce names in the manner of the language that the person who has the name speaks. (Preferably just to pronounce people's names the way they say them.) (The first convention doesn't work with my last name,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, people! I try hard to degenerate this discussion into a pure delirium traemens, and you still keep its serious intellectual contents intact! I bet that you don't even smile, writing your terrible off-topic postings! Damn, I was trying

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread jerzy . karczmarczuk
Tim Chevalier writes: ... I think the usual convention is to pronounce names in the manner of the language that the person who has the name speaks. (Preferably just to pronounce people's names the way they say them.) (The first convention doesn't work with my last name, though the second one

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Jeremy Apthorp
On 30/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. If you think that arigato is a genuine Japanese word, well, check how the appropriately translated word is spelled in Portuguese... Another Japanese word adopted from Portuguese is their word for bread: pan. Jeremy

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Paulo Tanimoto
On Jan 29, 2008 11:19 AM, Jeremy Apthorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another Japanese word adopted from Portuguese is their word for bread: pan. tabako too, I believe (it's not even written in katakana). Now, how do the Japanese pronounce Haskell, I'd like to know. Paulo

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-29 Thread Miguel Mitrofanov
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[Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
Haskell, stress on the first syllable; the first syllable is like the word has and the second syllable is pronounced with a schwa where the e is written. Sometimes you will hear people stress the second syllable, but that is not Preferred. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Chevalier * http://cs.pdx.edu/~tjc

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Jeremy Apthorp
On 29/01/2008, Tim Chevalier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haskell, stress on the first syllable; the first syllable is like the word has and the second syllable is pronounced with a schwa where the e is written. Sometimes you will hear people stress the second syllable, but that is not

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/28/08, Jeremy Apthorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/01/2008, Tim Chevalier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haskell, stress on the first syllable; the first syllable is like the word has and the second syllable is pronounced with a schwa where the e is written. Sometimes you will hear

[Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Jeremy Apthorp
On 29/01/2008, Tim Chevalier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/28/08, Jeremy Apthorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/01/2008, Tim Chevalier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haskell, stress on the first syllable; the first syllable is like the word has and the second syllable is pronounced with a schwa

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/28/08, Jeremy Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, If my sources are to be believed, the following clip contains Simon Peyton Jones saying 'Haskell' several times. http://www.n-heptane.com/nhlab/spj-haskell.wav I have listened to Simon (and other equally sage folks) say Haskell on a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread jerzy . karczmarczuk
Tim Chevalier writes: Haskell, stress on the first syllable; the first syllable is like the word has and the second syllable is pronounced with a schwa where the e is written. Sometimes you will hear people stress the second syllable, but that is not Preferred. == Well, unless you are

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unless you are French. Then you don't pronounce H. The remaining letters are pronounced according to the Règlements de l'Académie. Fair enough. I wouldn't want to be culturally insensitive, and should have said that my statement was

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Jeremy Shaw
Hello, If my sources are to be believed, the following clip contains Simon Peyton Jones saying 'Haskell' several times. http://www.n-heptane.com/nhlab/spj-haskell.wav j. At Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:28:44 +0800 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [1 multipart/alternative (7bit)] [1.1 text/plain; gbk

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/28/08, Tim Chevalier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/28/08, Jeremy Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, If my sources are to be believed, the following clip contains Simon Peyton Jones saying 'Haskell' several times. http://www.n-heptane.com/nhlab/spj-haskell.wav I have

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Jeremy Shaw
At Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:06:58 -0800, Tim Chevalier wrote: I should really read more carefully -- I see now that you weren't trying to disagree with me by posting that clip, but the person who *did* disagree with me was also named Jeremy. How confusing. tehehe. For the record, I believe I

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/28/08, Dan Weston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeremy Shaw wrote: I would say the best description of how I pronounce it (which may or may not be right): is like 'rascal' but with an h. Though, perhaps different people pronounce rascal differently than I do. I think to ease the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Dan Weston
Jeremy Shaw wrote: I would say the best description of how I pronounce it (which may or may not be right): is like 'rascal' but with an h. Though, perhaps different people pronounce rascal differently than I do. I think to ease the acceptance of Haskell in the broader world we should spell it

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Anton van Straaten
Tim Chevalier wrote: I suppose you would really want to ask Haskell Curry how *he* pronounced his name, but it's a bit late for that. Someone could ask Alonzo Church, Jr. how his one-time date pronounced her father's name:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/28/08, Anton van Straaten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Chevalier wrote: I suppose you would really want to ask Haskell Curry how *he* pronounced his name, but it's a bit late for that. Someone could ask Alonzo Church, Jr. how his one-time date pronounced her father's name:

Why isn't there a FAQ? (was: Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?)

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
I thought that the .wav file that Jeremy linked to should go in the Haskell FAQ, if there was one, but it doesn't seem to exist. There's a comp.lang.functional FAQ (that isn't maintained anymore) with a section on Haskell, and a GHC FAQ, but no general Haskell FAQ. A google search for haskell faq

Re: Why isn't there a FAQ? (was: Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?)

2008-01-28 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Jan 28, 2008, at 21:54 , Tim Chevalier wrote: I thought that the .wav file that Jeremy linked to should go in the Haskell FAQ, if there was one, but it doesn't seem to exist. http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Category:FAQ but it took me too much effort to find it, and it needs a fair

Re: Why isn't there a FAQ? (was: Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?)

2008-01-28 Thread Tim Chevalier
On 1/28/08, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2008, at 21:54 , Tim Chevalier wrote: I thought that the .wav file that Jeremy linked to should go in the Haskell FAQ, if there was one, but it doesn't seem to exist. http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Category:FAQ

Re: Why isn't there a FAQ? (was: Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?)

2008-01-28 Thread Derek Elkins
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 18:54 -0800, Tim Chevalier wrote: I thought that the .wav file that Jeremy linked to should go in the Haskell FAQ, if there was one, but it doesn't seem to exist. There's a comp.lang.functional FAQ (that isn't maintained anymore) with a section on Haskell, and a GHC FAQ,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?

2008-01-28 Thread Anton van Straaten
Tim Chevalier wrote: On 1/28/08, Anton van Straaten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Chevalier wrote: I suppose you would really want to ask Haskell Curry how *he* pronounced his name, but it's a bit late for that. Someone could ask Alonzo Church, Jr. how his one-time date pronounced her father's

Re: Why isn't there a FAQ? (was: Re: [Haskell-cafe] anybody can tell me the pronuncation of haskell?)

2008-01-28 Thread Henning Thielemann
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Tim Chevalier wrote: I thought that the .wav file that Jeremy linked to should go in the Haskell FAQ, if there was one, but it doesn't seem to exist. There's a comp.lang.functional FAQ (that isn't maintained anymore) with a section on Haskell, and a GHC FAQ, but no