Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Is Haskell a 5GL?
Hello Ch., Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 7:31:00 PM, you wrote: thus I think I will stay away from using it but argue with concrete abstraction features. Concerning the point someone made about the features of Haskell: * pattern matching: just case distinction * list comprehensions: syntactic sugar some time i will write Haskell advertisement wiki. key Haskell selling points i plan to mention is its expressiveness, reliability, excellent support for concurrency while higher-order funcs, parameterized ADTs, polymorphism, laziness, immutable data and various other language features are just concrete Haskell instruments that allow to reach these universal programmers goals meanwhile, i recommend you to look into why Haskell matters and http://www.md.chalmers.se/~rjmh/Papers/whyfp.pdf -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Is Haskell a 5GL?
Hello Bill, Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 1:03:02 AM, you wrote: I spent some time working on a large Prolog application where performance was critical, ... I think you're right that Haskell should be in the same bag as Prolog. and Haskell is the same as C++ when performance is critical, while C++ is the same as assembler. believe me - i has experience of optimizing both Haskell and C++ programs :) i think it's wrong to make decisions about language expressiveness on the base of requirements for writing optimized programs. my _application_ Haskell/C++ code contains about 80-90%% of code that _don't need_ to be optimized and it's just the case when higher language expressiveness rules. but for the remaining 10-20%% optimizing of higher-level language becomes a nightmare and it is much better to use lower-level language in these places (if it's possible!) instead of using lower-level techniques that just don't fit in the higher-language toolbox :( ps: btw, i was really thinking in assembler when optimizing my Haskell lib. it is why it so fast. on good-old DEC cpus whole getChar/putChar actions may be compiled in just one asm instruction :) so, using your logic, Haskell is 1-gl language :) -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
