Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-06-05 Thread Dominic Steinitz
I will certainly volunteer (to mentor) next year if I feel I can add value. Dominic Steinitz domi...@steinitz.org http://idontgetoutmuch.wordpress.com On 2 Jun 2013, at 17:23, Edward Kmett ekm...@gmail.com wrote: Public good is a nebulous concept, but it is something that each of the folks

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-06-02 Thread Dominic Steinitz
Hi Edward, Thanks for this comprehensive answer (and also thanks to participants in the follow-up dissuasion). How is the public good determined? (sounds rather Benthamite). I would have been disappointed if charts using diagrams had not been selected yet I don't recall being canvassed.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-06-02 Thread Edward Kmett
Public good is a nebulous concept, but it is something that each of the folks who sign up as mentors judges independently when they are rating the projects and talking about them. Most of the folks who are offering to mentor have been involved in the community for quite some time and have a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Tetley
Similarly (to some degree), in the ML world John Reppy had a very nice system that employed user customization via combinators rather than inference to generate application/library specific FFIs, see: http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~jhr/papers/2006/gpce-fig.pdf On 29 May 2013 18:57, Jason Dagit

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-30 Thread Carter Schonwald
thanks for these references all. As some folks who help with GSOC mentoring have pointed out offline, this summers work is not to be a research project, but a concretely achievable over the summer by a single student project. if we hit hard obstacles i'll help sort out a concrete path that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-29 Thread harry
Edward Kmett ekmett at gmail.com writes: * Haskell Qt Binding Generator by Zhengliang Feng, mentored by Carter Schonwald with help from Ian-Woo Kim Interesting, as this has been done at least twice before. Is there a public write-up of what's going to be different this time?

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-29 Thread Edward Kmett
There should be a link from the google-melange website, but one slight shift in focus is on either getting SWIG bindings or possibly even using Ian-Woo Kim's C++FFI tools. Carter may be able to go into more detail. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:46 AM, harry volderm...@hotmail.com wrote: Edward

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-29 Thread Tristan Ravitch
This one caught my attention as well. I didn't see any contact information for the participants (I didn't look too hard, I admit), but I was wondering if they had considered basing their work off of Qt Smoke. The smoke project (http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Smoke) is used by a few

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-29 Thread harry
Edward Kmett ekmett at gmail.com writes: There should be a link from the google-melange website, but one slight shift in focus is on either getting SWIG bindings or possibly even using Ian-Woo Kim's C++FFI tools. Carter may be able to go into more detail. There's almost no information in the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-29 Thread Edward Kmett
When submissions are put in, there is a way for mentors to talk to students to ask for more details. Those don't show up in the published abstract you can see at the end. The discussion shifted towards focusing on getting things to a point where Haskell can meaningfully use SWIG rather than on Qt

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-29 Thread Carter Schonwald
indeed, i'm the principal mentor for this project, though as mentioned Ian-Woo will hopefully be helping out too. I'm going to *help* focus the project on being a tool thats not focused on QT, though if something nice can be worked out in that direction, great! indeed, I suspect Edward, Ian-Woo

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-29 Thread Jason Dagit
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Carter Schonwald carter.schonw...@gmail.com wrote: indeed, i'm the principal mentor for this project, though as mentioned Ian-Woo will hopefully be helping out too. I'm going to *help* focus the project on being a tool thats not focused on QT, though if

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-29 Thread Carter Schonwald
Ooo. Thanks Jason. That looks like a fleshed out version of the approach I was leaning towards at least thinking about. I'll check it out when I have time in a few days. On May 29, 2013 1:57 PM, Jason Dagit dag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Carter Schonwald

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-28 Thread Dominic Steinitz
Hi Edward, Although the project I am interested in (as a user) has been accepted :-), I can't help feeling the selection process is a bit opaque. Is it documented somewhere and I just missed it? Apologies if I did. BTW I appreciate all the hard work that goes into the selection process.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-28 Thread Edward Kmett
Hi Dominic, The proposal is admittedly rather unfortunately opaque. The parts I can shed light on: Students come up with proposals with the help of the community and then submit them to google-melange.com. A bunch of folks from the haskell community sign up as potential mentors, vote on and

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-28 Thread Ben Lippmeier
On 29/05/2013, at 1:11 AM, Edward Kmett wrote: This unfortunately means, that we can't really show the unaccepted proposals with information about how to avoid getting your proposal rejected. You can if you rewrite the key points of proposal to retain the overall message, but remove

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [haskell.org Google Summer of Code 2013] Approved Projects

2013-05-28 Thread Edward Kmett
The majority of the rejections are of precisely that form, or just were slightly out-competed by another similar proposal in their space. These items either are stated or should be stated in the student application guidelines, but a successful summer of code submission probably has most of the