Re: Update on Haskell Prime reboot?

2016-04-22 Thread Philippa Cowderoy
Agreed - the appropriate means for specifying the type system is something I'm not sure we have a truly good answer for at this point alas. We're way past being able to rely on an informal "H-M + constraints from typeclasses" style description if we want to describe even extensions that have be

Re: Update on Haskell Prime reboot?

2016-04-22 Thread Andres Loeh
Hi. I've been talking to Herbert from time to time, and I know he's having a draft announcement lying around, and is still planning on properly starting the process soon, and has (this is my opinion, not his) just been falling into the trap of waiting for a "good moment" which then never comes. I

Re: Update on Haskell Prime reboot?

2016-04-22 Thread Philippa Cowderoy
In all honesty, Typing Haskell in Haskell is about as far as anyone should push typechecking and type inference while claiming to still work in a functional style. I don't think a good GADT pre-spec looks like functional programming at all, it's a [constraint] logic programming problem and part

Re: Update on Haskell Prime reboot?

2016-04-22 Thread José Manuel Calderón Trilla
Hi Richard, > As a concrete suggestion, I wonder if we should have two goals: > > 1. Write down an updated standard for Haskell. > > 2. Write down pre-standards for several extensions. I agree with both of these. It may even be useful to use goal 2 as a stepping stone to determine what extensions

Re: Update on Haskell Prime reboot?

2016-04-22 Thread Richard Eisenberg
I stand by ready to debate standards and would enjoy moving this process forward. However, I'm not in a position where I can lead at the moment -- just too consumed by other tasks right now. As a concrete suggestion, I wonder if we should have two goals: 1. Write down an updated standard for Ha

Update on Haskell Prime reboot?

2016-04-21 Thread José Manuel Calderón Trilla
Hello all, I'm curious if there is any progress on the reboot of the Haskell Prime committee. It has been six months since the closing of nominations and there hasn't been any word that I'm aware of. I've also spoken to a few others that have self-nominated and they too have not heard any news. P