Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence and EOL

2017-01-03 Thread Sangjin Lee
Happy new year! I think this topic has aged quite a bit in the discussion thread. Should we take it to a vote? Do we need additional discussions? Regards, Sangjin On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Karthik Kambatla wrote: > Fair points, Sangjin and Andrew. > > To get the

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence and EOL

2016-11-09 Thread Karthik Kambatla
Fair points, Sangjin and Andrew. To get the ball rolling on this, I am willing to try the proposed policy. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Andrew Wang wrote: > I'm certainly willing to try this policy. There's definitely room for > improvement when it comes to

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence and EOL

2016-11-04 Thread Andrew Wang
I'm certainly willing to try this policy. There's definitely room for improvement when it comes to streamlining the release process. The create-release script that Allen wrote helps, but there are still a lot of manual steps in HowToRelease for staging and publishing a release. Another perennial

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence and EOL

2016-11-04 Thread Sangjin Lee
Thanks for your thoughts and more data points Andrew. I share your concern that the proposal may be more aggressive than what we have been able to accomplish so far. I'd like to hear from the community what is a desirable release cadence which is still within the realm of the possible. The EOL

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence and EOL

2016-11-01 Thread Andrew Wang
Thanks for pushing on this Sangjin. The proposal sounds reasonable. However, for it to have teeth, we need to be *very* disciplined about the release cadence. Looking at our release history, we've done 4 maintenance releases in 2016 and no minor releases. 2015 had 4 maintenance and 1 minor

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence and EOL

2016-08-23 Thread Karthik Kambatla
> > > Here is just an idea to get started. How about "a minor release line is > EOLed 2 years after it is released or there are 2 newer minor releases, > whichever is sooner. The community reserves the right to extend or shorten > the life of a release line if there is a good reason to do so." > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence and EOL

2016-08-23 Thread Sangjin Lee
Thanks Karthik for opening a long overdue discussion on the release cadence and EOL. As for the EOL, I think we need to weigh between the benefit for the users and the maintenance cost for the community. I'd also love to find out what other (major) open source projects do in terms of the EOL.

[DISCUSS] Release cadence and EOL

2016-08-12 Thread Karthik Kambatla
Forking off this discussion from 2.6.5 release thread. Junping and Chris T have brought up important concerns regarding too many concurrent releases and the lack of EOL for our releases. First up, it would be nice to hear from others on our releases having the notion of EOL and other