Re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s

2005-07-19 Thread Steven Bernstein
Geresh is a punctuation mark, and don't we generally add punctuation marks to our records so that they can be better understood? In most cases, a colon generally does not appear on the item between the place of publication and the publisher's name, but we include it there in order to add context

Re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s

2005-07-19 Thread Joan C Biella
But in both the roman and the nonroman field, and maybe ESPECIALLY in the nonroman field, we are supposed to be transcribing what we see within subfields demarcated by prescribed punctuation. There's no difference between roman and nonroman regarding either prescribed (required) punctuation or

Re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s

2005-07-19 Thread Lenore Bell
Some alternative approaches include: Transcribing the entire chronogram followed by a bracketed Hebrew date For complex chronograms in which only selected letters comprise the date, just supply a bracketed Hebrew date. The entire chronogram could then be transcribed (optionally) in a note.

Re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s

2005-07-19 Thread Joan C Biella
I like this idea! And I'm quite willing to transcribe the whole chronogram in a note--my only question is whether the SOURCE of the chronogram (Ps. 92:12 or the like)--not the CONTENT of the chronogram, whether or not it refers to the content of the item or the author's name-- is

Re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s

2005-07-19 Thread Steven Bernstein
Perhaps the colon was a bad example. What I had in mind initially was that the AACR2 states, Transcribe the title proper exactly as to wording, order, and spelling, but not neccessarily as to punctuation and capitalization (1.1B1). If this rule had an equal with regard to the Publication Area,

re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s

2005-07-19 Thread Stanley Nachamie
I haven't been following this discussion that closely, but what is generally done in roman script books that contain chronograms? I would expect something like, in the 260, having the chronogram transcribed with the derived date in brackets, with a 5xx describing the chronogram and how the date

Re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s

2005-07-19 Thread Steven Bernstein
I agree, but there's no reason why it can't be an optional note. - Original Message - From: Yossi Galron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: heb-naco@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: Re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s I don't think adding the source is

Re: proposed draft RDA rule on 260s

2005-07-19 Thread Lenore Bell
IMHO, I do not think that *identifying* the source of the chronogram is bibliographically significant, and would advise against incorprating this idea into the rules, even on an optional basis. My understanding is that we should be thinking in terms of recommendations that make the rules