Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
I second Bob’s proposal of creating a list. Ahava, would such a list be included in the new Resources section of RDA? Or would it only belong on our user community’s wiki? From: Heb-naco On Behalf Of Robert M. TALBOTT via Heb-naco Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 12:21 PM To: Neil Manel

Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco
Yes, we do not put commentaries under liturgy. As per LCSH: Commentaries [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://classweb.org/img/gum16x11.png__;!!KGKeukY!ij_A8O6vpKdmrminZErBcgw-_WBrCyYE6-u0n2nYvhzumNY3V7xA3s7LcRvuIfHRoucV$ ] Use as a form subdivision under uniform titles of sacred works for

Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Ahava Cohen via Heb-naco
While the RSC hasn't finalized plans for the Community Resources, a list of Jewish scared texts has been the example we've using for over a year when discussing future Resources tab content. IFLA Cataloging Section has also expressed an interest in publishing a subset of this kind of list (the

Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Yes, Marlene, that's correct because the Haggadah is a liturgical work not a sacred work. Per LC's SHM 1435, the subdivision Commentaries only applies to sacred works not religious works. The Written (i.e., Tanakh) and Oral (i.e., Mishnah and Gemara [together, the Talmud]) Torah would be

Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Ahava Cohen via Heb-naco
The new Toolkit is deliberately vague because the RSC is trying to move content which is biased in favor of a specific religion/cultural group out of the basic Toolkit and into the Resources tab. We know that religious works is an area which does require guidelines in the basic Toolkit, but at

Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Robert M. TALBOTT via Heb-naco
Discussing it during the summer session is a good idea. I also suggest the creation of a working list of sacred works that we can all agree upon, though I realize this may be problematic. B On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 8:58 AM Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco < heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> wrote: >

Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Gabriel Angulo via Heb-naco
Hi Heidi, The Zohar is a mystical work, or a work of Jewish Mysticism. kol tuv, Gabe On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:47 PM Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco < heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question: for purposes of correct application of LC Subject > Heading Manual and RDA, is

Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco
Thanks Neil and Gabriel The reason for the question is the correct use of the LCSH subdivision: Introductions. According to SHM this subdivision is to only be used under Sacred works. Based on what Neil and Gabriel say, I will not use it in the record for that i am working on (a Hebrew

Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco
Hi Bob, Thanks for your response which makes total sense. As a matter of fact, in the new version of the Toolkit the term "Sacred scriptures" does not appear. What we do have is "Religious works" in definitions which is vague. religious work A work that is held sacred by a religion and its

Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco
I think this is a great question, and probably the fruit of applying an anglocentric category to a body of literature that doesn't match. We should consider if anything we call *sifre kodesh* is actually a sacred text in the spirit of the LC category. That said, even inside of the sphere of

Re: [Heb-NACO] Sacred work

2021-01-25 Thread Robert M. TALBOTT via Heb-naco
Hi Heidi: Outside of the obvious sacred works, I think it's up to the individual library to decide what gets treated as a sacred work and what doesn't since there isn't an official list. For my money, the Zohar is not a sacred text. Important, intriguing, wrapped in mystery and goof-ball