Re: [Heb-NACO] Date Status (DtSt) and Dates in the fixed field

2022-11-15 Thread Joan Biella via Heb-naco
I’d like to repeat and stress Jasmin’s endorsement of a “consistent, standard practice.” Certain questions like this one arise over and over again in Hebraica cataloging, and can be settled only by adopting a standard—there is one, generally used by the largest libraries. Teach the standard.

Re: [Heb-NACO] Date Status (DtSt) and Dates in the fixed field

2022-11-15 Thread Miller, Caroline via Heb-naco
Thank you all for your responses. Although documentation states otherwise, I think about what Cliff says and that has merit. How I also think about it is that the last digit of a Hebrew year generally corresponds to the last digit in the 9 months of the Gregorian year. For example most of

Re: [Heb-NACO] Date Status (DtSt) and Dates in the fixed field

2022-11-15 Thread Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco
I agree with Cliff and Caroline; it is also the practice of the Israeli libraries (National Library and others), BUT for years we did it the other way: I am afraid that if we change it now without changing the past records – it will just create a bigger chaos. Only if there is an automatic way

Re: [Heb-NACO] Date Status (DtSt) and Dates in the fixed field

2022-11-15 Thread Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Hi, Cliff, Your thought about probability is interesting. Nevertheless, our documented practice has been to use the earlier of the two possible dates for both the call no. date and fixed field date. Please see the Classification and Shelflisting Manual, G140

Re: [Heb-NACO] Date Status (DtSt) and Dates in the fixed field

2022-11-15 Thread Cliff Miller via Heb-naco
Dear Colleagues, I'm working remotely so I cannot check any references at my Seminary Library desk. As I recall the single date "s" is to be used when the date is certain or probable. 5783 might be any of 9 months of 2023 or any of 3 months of 2022. When the odds are 3 to 1 of the later date, I