Re: [Heb-NACO] ALA/LC romanization(?) for Aramic as used in Babylonian Talmud, Talmud Yerushalmi, midrashitc texts

2022-11-14 Thread Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco
Thanks Haim for sharing your practice. We follow similar steps. I am also concerned about the following phrase "The following romanization table attempts to represent the sound of Hebrew or Yiddish words but is applicable to all Hebraic languages." With the addition of the ALA/LC Judeo-Arabic

Re: [Heb-NACO] ALA/LC romanization(?) for Aramic as used in Babylonian Talmud, Talmud Yerushalmi, midrashitc texts

2022-11-14 Thread Joan Biella via Heb-naco
In my time at LC we never tackled this, mostly because we almost never needed it. Personally, I always turned to Jastrow first, but this practice was not codified. Joan Biella On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 9:17 AM Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco < heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Dear safranim, Is it

Re: [Heb-NACO] ALA/LC romanization(?) for Aramic as used in Babylonian Talmud, Talmud Yerushalmi, midrashitc texts

2022-11-14 Thread Robert M. TALBOTT via Heb-naco
Hmm. I don't know that the language warrants a gold standard analog to Even Shoshan: 1) The corpus is finite: Nothing new is being written in any of the various Jewish takes on Aramaic (so far as I know), so the need to standardize is greatly reduced; 2) Lexicon is only part of the issue: As

Re: [Heb-NACO] ALA/LC romanization(?) for Aramic as used in Babylonian Talmud, Talmud Yerushalmi, midrashitc texts

2022-11-14 Thread Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Excellent question, Heidi! I know of no codified Aramaic romanization table. I, too, have applied the Hebrew standards for Aramaic terms as needed. The question is whether or not there is sufficient justification to consider Aramaic its own discrete language requiring its own standard. I'm not

Re: [Heb-NACO] ALA/LC romanization(?) for Aramic as used in Babylonian Talmud, Talmud Yerushalmi, midrashitc texts

2022-11-14 Thread Gottschalk, Haim via Heb-naco
With respect to the vocalization of Aramaic words, I looked at a few sources - after ES or Alkalay - I start with Jastrow and if not found, I would then search in Sefaria and Wikitext, which gives me the citation and then I follow this with the (physical) Koren Talmud and then the (physical)

[Heb-NACO] ALA/LC romanization(?) for Aramic as used in Babylonian Talmud, Talmud Yerushalmi, midrashitc texts

2022-11-14 Thread Heidi G Lerner via Heb-naco
Dear safranim, Is it possible that in our years of developing romanization schemata for several Jewish languages written in Hebrew script we have not codified any guidelines for Aramaic used in talmudic and midrashic/aggadic/cabalistic texts? Up until now my practice has been to follow the