Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

There's nothing I can add to Zimoun & Maxim's excellent answers. I completely agree with Maxim: this is a feature, a positive choice; not a bug, nor some fearful refusal to hear loud 'voices' that are already wildly overrepresented. If the urge to promote proprietary software/vendors/misinforma

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Hello, 白い熊＠相撲道 writes: > On 2022-05-11 14:31, yasu wrote: >> This is also an old topic, but we need lesser-help-guix@... >> The help-guix@... seems so much against even discussion of such >> things... >> So for now (and let me stress, I do not like this situation of self- >> imposed-gagging and

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

One phrase I heard recently and struck a chord: Needs Unite, Ideas Divide We all need Free Software but I think the attitude toward non-free seems to vary - I seem to be on the side of "I don't care as long as I know where they are on my system" So yes, I think we just need to have a separate

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Hi, Le jeudi 12 mai 2022 à 18:00 +0200, zimoun a écrit : > The Guix project is part of the GNU project; for the good, the bad or > the ugly.  What it implies is documented, for instance: > > < > https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.en.html > > > These rules are for

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Hi, On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 09:37, 白い熊＠相撲道 wrote: > For this reason I'd think it'd be beneficial to fully discuss the Guix > solution here. Moderators - can you give guidance on this? I am not a moderator and it is not a guidance. The Guix project is part of the GNU project; for the good, the

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

On 2022-05-11 14:31, yasu wrote: This is also an old topic, but we need lesser-help-guix@... The help-guix@... seems so much against even discussion of such things... So for now (and let me stress, I do not like this situation of self- imposed-gagging and would like to help create alternative co

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

This is also an old topic, but we need lesser-help-guix@... The help-guix@... seems so much against even discussion of such things... So for now (and let me stress, I do not like this situation of self- imposed-gagging and would like to help create alternative communication forums), let me send y

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Clément Lassieur writes: Guix allows one to customize their packages through inheritance.  You could create a custom linux package that inherits Guix's linux-libre, with, say a differente source.  When linux-libre is updated, my-linux would be updated as well, since it inherits linux-libre.  Th

Re: Librem (was: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi))

Christopher Lemmer Webber writes: >> Any Librem user out there? > > I'm running a LibreM 13. GuixSD worked perfectly out of the box. It's > nice to run GNOME again (after not having working OpenGL for ages on my > x200). The hardware kill switches for wifi / camera / microphone are > also nic

Re: Librem (was: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi))

Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Chris Marusich writes: > >> Another option is to find a system that respects your freedom and does >> not require proprietary software to run. I have a LibreBoot laptop I >> purchased from MiniFree, and I love it! I know that purchasing a >> replacement computer that

Librem (was: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi))

Chris Marusich writes: > Another option is to find a system that respects your freedom and does > not require proprietary software to run. I have a LibreBoot laptop I > purchased from MiniFree, and I love it! I know that purchasing a > replacement computer that respects your freedom can seem l

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Am 28.03.2018 um 00:05 schrieb Mark H Weaver: > I disagree. We achieve something indispensible. We make it far more > likely that the next time users purchase hardware, they will avoid > hardware that would require their operating system to include nonfree > software. This creates incentives for

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Marius Bakke writes: > Chris Marusich writes: > >> Hi Pierre, >> >> Pierre Neidhardt writes: >> >>> linux-libre turns off the ability to load non-free firmware. Why is >>> it so? >> >> I did a little bit of searching on the Internet, and it seems to me like >> the reason why Linux-libre turns

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Hartmut Goebel writes: > Am 25.03.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Chris Marusich: >> As Ludo mentioned elsewhere, using a dongle is one good option. What >> prevents you from using a dongle? > > Why should I punish myself just for to says "Hey, I'm using only free > software"? This benefits nobody! [1] >

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Hey Hartmut, Hartmut Goebel skribis: > Am 25.03.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Chris Marusich: >> As Ludo mentioned elsewhere, using a dongle is one good option. What >> prevents you from using a dongle? > > Why should I punish myself just for to says "Hey, I'm using only free > software"? This benefits

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Chris Marusich writes: > Hi Pierre, > > Pierre Neidhardt writes: > >> linux-libre turns off the ability to load non-free firmware. Why is >> it so? > > I did a little bit of searching on the Internet, and it seems to me like > the reason why Linux-libre turns off the ability to load non-free >

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Am 25.03.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Chris Marusich: > As Ludo mentioned elsewhere, using a dongle is one good option. What > prevents you from using a dongle? Why should I punish myself just for to says "Hey, I'm using only free software"? This benefits nobody! [1] Please don't get me wrong: free sof

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

> "The trouble with firmware" by Jake Edge, January 5, 2011 > https://lwn.net/Articles/421680/ Interesting article. I share similar views and I believe that making proprietary code hard to proliferate is laudable. See the GPL license. I'm not completely convince how Linux-libre would work towar

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Hi Pierre, Pierre Neidhardt writes: > linux-libre turns off the ability to load non-free firmware. Why is > it so? I did a little bit of searching on the Internet, and it seems to me like the reason why Linux-libre turns off the ability to load non-free firmware is because the project does not

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Clément Lassieur writes: > Guix allows one to customize their packages through inheritance. You > could create a custom linux package that inherits Guix's linux-libre, > with, say a differente source. When linux-libre is updated, my-linux > would be updated as well, since it inherits linux-lib

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Pierre Neidhardt writes: > This was posted before: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2017-01/msg00041.html > > Unfortunately, I'm not able to acquire a wifi dongle at the moment. > As far as I understand, linux-libre turns off the ability to load > non-free firmware. Why is it

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

> Is it possible to re-enable the feature? > If not, are there other ways around the issue? I want to make it clear that the solution seems to be for you to acquire a copy of the GNU Linux-libre scripts' source code, modify then so that they don't block that specific non-free part, and then have t

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

Hey Pierre, On Fri, Mar 02 2018, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: An idea crossed my mind: from a foreign distribution with Guix installed, run guix system init /mnt/etc/config.scm /mnt [...] Is there a simple way to do this without `herd'? There is! I followed the vague instructions in this me

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

> As far as I understand, linux-libre turns off the ability to load > non-free firmware. Why is it so? It's a bug in the Linux kernel itself, caused by how it actually looks and loads stuff. See the reply given by Alexandre Oliva ([1]). [1]

Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

An idea crossed my mind: from a foreign distribution with Guix installed, run guix system init /mnt/etc/config.scm /mnt The documentation tells us that's not enough though: > With the target partitions ready and the target root mounted on ‘/mnt’, > we’re ready to go. First, run: > >

Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)

This was posted before: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2017-01/msg00041.html Unfortunately, I'm not able to acquire a wifi dongle at the moment. As far as I understand, linux-libre turns off the ability to load non-free firmware. Why is it so? Is it possible to re-enable the