Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-23 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "TBB" == Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TBB> Chiaki Ishikawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> 2. If not, does anyone know how to contact and ask such person(s) >> to change the mailman config so that the e-mails without proper >> To:, or Cc: address j

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-21 Thread Super-User
Michele Dalla Silvestra wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 07:19:51PM +0100, Gerhard Muntingh wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 07:26:56PM +0100, Stefan Karrmann wrote: > > > Make the non-subscriber mails go to some moderators and send the > > > subscriber mails directly to the list. > > > > Don

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-21 Thread Michele Dalla Silvestra
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 07:19:51PM +0100, Gerhard Muntingh wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 07:26:56PM +0100, Stefan Karrmann wrote: > > Make the non-subscriber mails go to some moderators and send the > > subscriber mails directly to the list. > > Don't sacrify freedom for safety, It isn't a fr

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Chiaki Ishikawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. Does anyone who has access to the mailman configuration for this >mailing list (and other at fsf/gnu site) >read this discussion? Not directly. > 2. If not, does anyone know how to contact and ask such person(s) >to change the mailma

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Chiaki Ishikawa
I am curious about two things. I don't need moderator(s). 1. Does anyone who has access to the mailman configuration for this mailing list (and other at fsf/gnu site) read this discussion? (Not at least for the initial few hours of discussion, I gather.) 2. If not, does anyone kn

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Gerhard Muntingh
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 07:26:56PM +0100, Stefan Karrmann wrote: > Make the non-subscriber mails go to some moderators and send the > subscriber mails directly to the list. > I hate that, it's bureaucratic. I just said something similar in another mail which I regret now. I do agree though if

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Gerhard Muntingh
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 06:23:20PM +0100, Ottavio Campana wrote: > If you just use procmail you don't find any solution to all the spam > emails that travel with this mailing list. Everyone has first to > download the mails and then to kill them. Wouldn't it be easier and more > effici

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Stefan Karrmann
Make the non-subscriber mails go to some moderators and send the subscriber mails directly to the list. -- Stefan Karrmann Satire does not look pretty upon a tombstone. ___ Help-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Kristian Rink
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:43:12 +0100 Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have spent more time in my life reading (and sometimes participating) in > discussions about spam on mailing lists than I spent deleting the spam :) > Good point. :) Being more or less a 'calm lurker' on this li

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20011220T182320+0100, Ottavio Campana wrote: > Wouldn't it be easier and more > efficient to stop them directly at the source? Yes. However, /dev/nulling them at the list robot does not do that. Only complaining about spam does that - and for that you need to get a copy of it. -- Antti-Juha

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Ottavio Campana
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:20:56AM +0100, Neal H Walfield wrote: > Personally, I think this is all absolutely silly: first off, an > X-RBL-Warning header is added to all mail coming from gnu.org lists > that are sent from an open relay. I send all of this mail directly to > /dev/null. I also rej

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 08:53:46AM -0200, Bruno A. C. Ferreira wrote: > I think much of this spam comes from non members. So, a primary action to > avoid spam should be to enable the option "member_posting_only" (This list is > managed by Mailman, right?). This is a help channel. I don't want

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Morten Poulsen
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 15:38, Michele Dalla Silvestra wrote: > Moderators can be more than one person, and is very simple to manage. With 3 > or 4 moderators, some unlucky messages can be a delay minor than 24 h. But that's a long delay for a discussion list. Blocking mail with implicit destinatio

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Michele Dalla Silvestra
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 08:53:46AM -0200, Bruno A. C. Ferreira wrote: > I think much of this spam comes from non members. So, a primary action to > avoid spam should be to enable the option "member_posting_only" (This list is > managed by Mailman, right?). Apart from using procmail in every cl

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Chiaki Ishikawa
X-PMC-CI-e-mail-id: 17323 >However, setting mailman to require explicit recipients is a Good >Thing - there is no problem with this: The ML is public anyway and a >Bcc to the list is therefore silly. Most spam gets filtered our with >this rule. So who is going to perform this modification?

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:20:56 +0100, Neal H Walfield said: > Personally, I think this is all absolutely silly: first off, an > X-RBL-Warning header is added to all mail coming from gnu.org lists This works perfectly. The uk-crypto ML uses the same, well I have to allow a few poster which are som

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Bruno A . C . Ferreira
I think much of this spam comes from non members. So, a primary action to avoid spam should be to enable the option "member_posting_only" (This list is managed by Mailman, right?). But if this option is already enabled (and the spammers are the members), I agree that this list should be moder

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Neal H Walfield
> > I subscribe to this list. I'm getting a bit exasperated by the large >> amount of spam which occurs. >> >> Can the list be moderated? If no one else is willing, I'd be willing >> to volunteer, if it were possible for me to act as moderator. > > You're right! I think that the list should be mo

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Ottavio Campana
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 11:34:16PM +, Bob Wilkinson wrote: > I subscribe to this list. I'm getting a bit exasperated by the large > amount of spam which occurs. > > Can the list be moderated? If no one else is willing, I'd be willing > to volunteer, if it were possible for me to act as modera

Re: Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-20 Thread Morten Poulsen
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 00:34, Bob Wilkinson wrote: > Can the list be moderated? If no one else is willing, I'd be willing > to volunteer, if it were possible for me to act as moderator. Most of the spam has implicit destination, and this list is powered by mailman, which has a feature to reject th

Spam, Spam, Spam,....

2001-12-19 Thread Bob Wilkinson
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 03:06:03AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Today's Topics: > >1. TELECOM GEAR Blowout! 11940 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >2. SHCC: National Sales Expansion Position Company for Rapid >Growth XF ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > I subscribe to t