On April 13, 2019 7:21:09 AM GMT+08:00, Stefan Monnier
wrote:
>> yes, I can collect patches, test them, push them in my github clone
>> and send pull request to elpa.
>
>OK, done, thank you.
>It's now up at http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/smalltalk-mode.html
>
>While testing this URL I just saw
> yes, I can collect patches, test them, push them in my github clone
> and send pull request to elpa.
OK, done, thank you.
It's now up at http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/smalltalk-mode.html
While testing this URL I just saw that the result is pretty poor for
lack of a worthwhile `Commentary:`
yes, I can collect patches, test them, push them in my github clone and send
pull request to elpa.
On April 10, 2019 1:04:53 AM GMT+08:00, Stefan Monnier
wrote:
>Oh, one more thing: packages on elpa.git need a "maintainer email" to
>which we send a copy of every commit. Which address should
Oh, one more thing: packages on elpa.git need a "maintainer email" to
which we send a copy of every commit. Which address should we
use there? Since these email messages contain diffs we usually use
either the address of a "development" mailing-list or of one person.
Should I put Derek Zhou's
Stefan Monnier writes:
> - I wrote the tentative patch below which converts gst-mode.el.in to
> gst-mode.el (by assuming `gst` can be found in $PATH), and moves the
> content of smalltalk-mode-init.el.in into smalltalk-mode.el (with
> autoload annotations so that these get executed at
>>> Anyway, from what I understand, you have no intention of moving
>>> smalltalk-mode.el elsewhere nor to spend your time with a 2-way sync.
>>> In that case, I think it's best not to add smalltalk-mode.el to GNU
>>> ELPA to avoid the risk of a fork.
>> i am not a member of the smalltalk dev
bill-auger writes:
> what has me particularly perplexed, is the: "two-way sync required" -
> developers and packagers are in an "upstream/downstream" relationship
That's because you still haven't understood that GNU ELPA is not just
a package distribution system.
The overall ELPA system is (it
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:05:20 +0800 Derek wrote:
> I can maintain smalltalk-mode on ELPA and do the 2
> way sync required.
i am still completely baffled about this fixation in having the
upstream's approval, cooperation, or involvement in the packaging
process - you have everything you could
Holger Freyther writes:
> I am currently not a GNU Emacs user and as a result have been quiet on
> this topic.
>
> There seems to be benefit[1] to move the smalltalk-model.el into the GNU
> ELPA repository. I can check what rms wrote but I need one of you to do
> the actual move.
>
> holger
>
>
> On 26. Mar 2019, at 22:46, bill-auger wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:51:34 -0400 Stefan wrote:
>> Anyway, from what I understand, you have no intention of moving
>> smalltalk-mode.el elsewhere nor to spend your time with a 2-way sync.
>> In that case, I think it's best not to add
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:51:34 -0400 Stefan wrote:
> Anyway, from what I understand, you have no intention of moving
> smalltalk-mode.el elsewhere nor to spend your time with a 2-way sync.
> In that case, I think it's best not to add smalltalk-mode.el to GNU
> ELPA to avoid the risk of a fork.
i am
bill-auger writes:
> the emacs mode is in the smalltalk source tree because it is distributed
> and installed with the smalltalk software, so that all users of the
> smalltalk software will have, it without the need for installing a
> separate package or package manager - for that reason there is
the emacs mode is in the smalltalk source tree because it is distributed
and installed with the smalltalk software, so that all users of the
smalltalk software will have, it without the need for installing a
separate package or package manager - for that reason there is little
need to package it
Stefan Monnier writes:
>
> We'd be happy to add smalltalk-mode to elpa.git, but we wouldn't want
> this to end up being a fork or becoming some stale copy of your own
> smalltalk-mode.el, which is why I came here to figure out whether there
> is a firm commitment here to keep the two copies in
Hi,
Derek Zhou kindly contacted us to add smalltalk-mode to GNU ELPA, so
I looked at the archives of this mailing-list to figure out exactly what
was the underlying intention, and I think there was a slight
misunderstanding, so I'm not sure what to do and I need your help.
GNU ELPA is a part of
Derek Zhou wrote:
> but I do want to get the author's blessing first.
you already have the authors blessing - the GPL license *is* the authors
blessing - really - it is a beautiful thing in that way :)
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bill-auger writes:
> Derek Zhou wrote:
>> Wilfred,
>> Do you want to add smalltalk-mode to ELPA?
>
> the answer i gave you is probably the best one that anyone could give -
> maybe i could have been more clear
>
> Derek Zhou wrote:
>> Can I do anything to help?
>
> just do it - the ELPA team
Derek Zhou wrote:
> Wilfred,
> Do you want to add smalltalk-mode to ELPA?
the answer i gave you is probably the best one that anyone could give -
maybe i could have been more clear
generally speaking, software developers do not package their software -
that is almost always done by someone who
Wilfred,
I read the git log in the smalltalk repo, and the last few changes to
smalltalk-mode are all done by you. I am assuming you are the principal
maintainer of smalltalk-mode. I asked the question on the list last
month but got very few responses. Do you want to add smalltalk-mode to
ELPA?
On February 28, 2019 2:45:51 AM GMT+08:00, bill-auger
wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 23:52:07 +0800 Derek wrote:
>> I think they welcome anything copyrighted by FSF already?
>
>i dont know what they welcome or un-welcome - that is yet another
>question better posed toward those "they"
>
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 23:52:07 +0800 Derek wrote:
> I think they welcome anything copyrighted by FSF already?
i dont know what they welcome or un-welcome - that is yet another
question better posed toward those "they"
generally speaking, software developers do not package their software -
it is
bill-auger writes:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:05:45 +0800 Derek wrote:
>> maybe the smalltalk-mode should be
>> packaged and distributed on GNU ELPA?
>
> maybe, but that would be a question for GNU ELPA to decide
>
I think they welcome anything copyrighted by FSF already?
For non-FSF copyrighted
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:05:45 +0800 Derek wrote:
> maybe the smalltalk-mode should be
> packaged and distributed on GNU ELPA?
maybe, but that would be a question for GNU ELPA to decide
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Dear list,
GNU smalltalk has a official smalltalk-mode for emacs. Nowdays the
standard to distribute emacs packages is via ELPA or MELPA; since GNU
smalltalk is already a GNU project, maybe the smalltalk-mode should be
packaged and distributed on GNU ELPA?
Derek
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