Re: [hibernate-dev] Should HHH-12150 be fixed in 5.3.0.Beta?

2018-01-12 Thread Gail Badner
Done. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Can you get those done by Wednesday? If so, I think that's a good plan. > I can't think of anything else for you to work on atm for 5.3. Maybe once > we start to hear back about the remaining outstanding

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Ebersole
I believe most of this is already handled for various build tools (like the gradle docker plugin) and simplified by docker image repos (bintray, e.g.). But this is a good point. I'd be interested to see if you've done this before Brett.. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 2:56 PM Gunnar Morling

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Gunnar Morling
Brett, What's still unclear to me is when going the Docker route, won't you still need some code which deploys your tests to Karaf, runs them there and fetches the test results, so e.g. your Gradle build will fail if there are test failures? Would you envision to write these bits yourself? And

Re: [hibernate-dev] Plans to release 5.2.13?

2018-01-12 Thread Gunnar Morling
Hey all, > at least plan a 5.2.13 release soon to release all the fixes already in? +1 for doing another 5.2 release if there are lots of issues already merged and 5.3 isn't going through the door very soon. It'd be great to get those nice fixes you all did out to users. I realize I won't be

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Brett Meyer
I guess the way I'm looking at this is Docker will be primarily used by Jenkins, and myself or anyone working directly on hibernate-osgi itself.  Otherwise, it'll be disabled by default and hidden behind a profile.  We'll make sure that most contributors running the entire Hibernate test suite

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 12 January 2018 at 18:04, Steve Ebersole wrote: > I do not. But from what I understand its trivial to install on Fedora, > unlike some other tools y'all like to use ;) Right, this one is easy to install :) Although my questions was more about if you're all ok with that.

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread andrea boriero
I already have Docker running on my machine, so it seems not a big issue for me,but not sure about the impact for others. Anyway It's worth giving a try. On 12 January 2018 at 17:54, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > On 12 January 2018 at 17:32, Brett Meyer

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Ebersole
I do not. But from what I understand its trivial to install on Fedora, unlike some other tools y'all like to use ;) On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:55 AM Sanne Grinovero wrote: > On 12 January 2018 at 17:32, Brett Meyer wrote: > > If I don't have time to

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 12 January 2018 at 17:32, Brett Meyer wrote: > If I don't have time to contribute to Pax Exam, I certainly don't have > time to start a new project haha... > > And realistically, that "something new" would likely involve containers > anyway. > > At this point, mostly a

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Brett Meyer
If I don't have time to contribute to Pax Exam, I certainly don't have time to start a new project haha... And realistically, that "something new" would likely involve containers anyway. At this point, mostly a question of 1) status quo, 2) Docker (or any other container-based solution), or

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Ok, looks like you really should start something new :) Hopefully many of those other annoyed Karaf developers will follow. On 12 January 2018 at 13:59, Brett Meyer wrote: > Plus, for me, it's more a question of time. I only have a bit available > for open source work

Re: [hibernate-dev] Serializable SessionFactory

2018-01-12 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 12 January 2018 at 16:58, Vlad Mihalcea wrote: > Sure, we need to profile it first. I had started to create a micro-benchmark for it; unfortunately I had to get back on more urgent things, but if someone is willing to let it grow further, it's on github: -

Re: [hibernate-dev] Serializable SessionFactory

2018-01-12 Thread Vlad Mihalcea
Sure, we need to profile it first. >From what our users have told us, getting the metadata from the database takes some time and my goal was to identify whether we can do something about that. I'll come back once I have more info. Vlad On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Sanne Grinovero

Re: [hibernate-dev] Should HHH-12150 be fixed in 5.3.0.Beta?

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Ebersole
Can you get those done by Wednesday? If so, I think that's a good plan. I can't think of anything else for you to work on atm for 5.3. Maybe once we start to hear back about the remaining outstanding challenges... On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:44 PM Gail Badner wrote: >

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Ebersole
Personally I have had problems with Arquillian in the past. It was either setting up CDI tests or setting up OSGi tests (or maybe both). I am open to any suggestions that make this less brittle or easier to work with On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 5:34 AM Sanne Grinovero wrote:

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Brett Meyer
Plus, for me, it's more a question of time.  I only have a bit available for open source work these days, and I'd rather spend that knocking out some of the hibernate-osgi tasks we've had on our plate for a while.  I unfortunately don't have anything left to contribute to Pax Exam itself,

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Brett Meyer
Sorry Gunnar/Sanne, should have clarified this first: We actually used Arquillian before Pax Exam, and the experience was far worse (somewhat of a long story)... > Pax Exam was just "helping" to deploy/run things in Karaf, so I can't imagine using Karaf without the helpers being a walk in the

Re: [hibernate-dev] HHH-12172 - Bintray v. OSSRH

2018-01-12 Thread Gunnar Morling
2018-01-12 12:59 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero : > Personally I'm neutral. I surely wouldn't want to manage our own > Artifactory, but since JFrog will do that I'm not concerned about the > platform management being horrible. > > Artifactory looks better, OSSRH has the benefit of

Re: [hibernate-dev] HHH-12172 - Bintray v. OSSRH

2018-01-12 Thread Steve Ebersole
Firstly, if anyone looked at the Jira, you would see that Bintray simply won't work. They have a 10G storage limit. That's something we would hit pretty soon, depending on which projects moved there. Also, getting in touch with them for any kind of support has be a pretty big pain; its

Re: [hibernate-dev] HHH-12172 - Bintray v. OSSRH

2018-01-12 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Personally I'm neutral. I surely wouldn't want to manage our own Artifactory, but since JFrog will do that I'm not concerned about the platform management being horrible. Artifactory looks better, OSSRH has the benefit of possibly having better integration with Maven. There are some benefits on

Re: [hibernate-dev] Jenkins job priorities

2018-01-12 Thread Davide D'Alto
Well done, thanks a lot. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Yoann Rodiere wrote: > Quick update: the priority plugin seems to be working fine, and I disabled > the Heavy Job plugin. It turns out the Heavy Job plugin was preventing the > Amazon EC2 plugin to spin up new

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Sanne Grinovero
+1 to explore alternatives to Pax Exam, but I'd be wary of maintining our own test infrastructure. Pax Exam was just "helping" to deploy/run things in Karaf, so I can't imagine using Karaf without the helpers being a walk in the park; e.g. having to deal with HTTP operations comes with its own

Re: [hibernate-dev] replace Pax Exam with Docker

2018-01-12 Thread Gunnar Morling
Hi Brett, We also had our fair share of frustration with Pax Exam in HV, and I was (more than once) at the point of dropping it. Docker could work, but as you say it's a bit of a heavy dependency, if not required anyways. Not sure whether I'd like to add this as a prerequisite for the HV build

Re: [hibernate-dev] Jenkins job priorities

2018-01-12 Thread Yoann Rodiere
Quick update: the priority plugin seems to be working fine, and I disabled the Heavy Job plugin. It turns out the Heavy Job plugin was preventing the Amazon EC2 plugin to spin up new slaves, probably because the Amazon EC2 plugin only saw two empty slots on an existing slave and couldn't