Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2016-02-11 Thread sebersole
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-10 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 10 December 2015 at 15:26, Steve Ebersole wrote: > I am not really sure what "have their headers patched to declare that the > new guides are the canonical version" means in practical terms... It means that the HTML pages of the documentation should have some metadata within the header section

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-10 Thread Steve Ebersole
I am not really sure what "have their headers patched to declare that the new guides are the canonical version" means in practical terms... On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM Sanne Grinovero wrote: > On 9 December 2015 at 16:36, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > We could leave the ones that are on docs.jb

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-09 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 9 December 2015 at 16:36, Steve Ebersole wrote: > We could leave the ones that are on docs.jboss.org in place and just move > the current stable ones. I see no benefit to moving ORM 3.2 docs over e.g. I'm ok to leave them there, but if we do they at least need to have their headers patched to

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-09 Thread Steve Ebersole
We could leave the ones that are on docs.jboss.org in place and just move the current stable ones. I see no benefit to moving ORM 3.2 docs over e.g. On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:08 AM Sanne Grinovero wrote: > On 9 December 2015 at 13:54, Hardy Ferentschik > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, Dec 09,

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-09 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 9 December 2015 at 13:54, Hardy Ferentschik wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 03:12:54PM +0200, Vlad Mihalcea wrote: >> Is there any change we host the docs on hibernate.org and simply redirect >> the old pages from >> >> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate >> >> to >> >> http://hibernate.or

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-09 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
Hi, On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 03:12:54PM +0200, Vlad Mihalcea wrote: > Is there any change we host the docs on hibernate.org and simply redirect > the old pages from > > http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate > > to > > http://hibernate.org/orm/documentation That would be an option I guess. Host the do

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-09 Thread Vlad Mihalcea
Related to this, the sitemap is limited to 50k entries and hosting multiple projects, each one with tons of pages, is going to limit the number of entries we get in the sitemap. Is there any change we host the docs on hibernate.org and simply redirect the old pages from http://docs.jboss.org/hiber

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-09 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
Hi, I think one thing not mentioned on this thread is the fact that we are not controlling the root of the webserver (afaik). The docs are hosted on docs.jboss.org and I think we only have write access to the hibernate sub-folder. And even if we had access to the root and could modify robots.t

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-08 Thread Steve Ebersole
I've started discussions about this in general wrt the hibernate.org webpage. There is a lot of version-specific information there. Hosting this specifically for documentation on the doc site would be one option. Note however that we have limited forms of access to that docs site which makes it l

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-08 Thread Vlad Mihalcea
We could list the stable doc only in the sitemaps and exclude all the others from the robots.txt. This way Google will only index the stable docs. To navigate between versions we need to add a selector somewhere on the page to load a specific version of the docs, but that doesn't have to be indexe

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-08 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Stefania (my girlfriend but also a professional SEO consultant) also pointed out that we should make sure that indexing engines understand that the documentation pages are intentionally similar, as you get penalised for duplicate content. So as you suggest we need to mark - for each guide - which

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-07 Thread Vlad Mihalcea
Thanks for pointing that out. The robots.txt is in place https://docs.jboss.org/robots.txt. But I couldn't find the sitemap.xml According to Google: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/156184?hl=en The sitemap.xml is important if: - Your site is really large - Your site has a large arch

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-06 Thread Gunnar Morling
Hi Vlad, We already have something like this, at http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/stable/. The latest final version docs are available there. It's only that results from there have not a good search result ranking apparently. --Gunnar 2015-12-04 20:42 GMT+01:00 Vlad Mihalcea : > Hi, > > It seem

[hibernate-dev] Hibernate site SEO optimization

2015-12-04 Thread Vlad Mihalcea
Hi, It seems like a good step to tackle the SEO optimization problem is to offer a "curent" link in our site to point to the latest docs. That's how PostgreSQL and Spring do it and once this link is indexed by google, it will always render the latest version of the docs: http://www.postgresql.org