Re: [hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-17 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hi Fabio, yes good point. Infinispan has been using our feature packs as well, but they are in a similar situation and will have to change strategy. Even if others will need them, we don't have much choice: the existing feature packs won't work with the newer WildFly versions. So we'll keep

Re: [hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-16 Thread Fabio Massimo Ercoli
Hello, I take advantage of the topic to say that there is an `integrationtests` module in Infinispan too using feature packs, which are usings in turn the feature packs of the Hibernate Search 5. I have to ask the ISPN guys on Zulip about that, maybe they have already planned to remove such

Re: [hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-16 Thread Sanne Grinovero
We have a PR for this now, if someone would like to have a look: - https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/3347 One thing to note, is that it also removes all Arquillian based tests: we had some which were testing more than just the basics of our feature pack; although most had been

Re: [hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-16 Thread Yoann Rodiere
> Any specific reason you say that Yoann? No, I was just thinking that moving to Jarakarta JPA and Jakarta CDI had a high chance of breaking OSGi tests, unless the Jakarta artifacts properly support OSGi. But it was just a hunch; if it works, I don't have anything against keeping it. Yoann

Re: [hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-16 Thread Steve Ebersole
I do not plan on dropping hibernate-osgi. Its there; it works. Any specific reason you say that Yoann? Brett is the only one to do anything with that "tutorial". Though as time went on its focus was more a way to find problems when the paxexam tests failed - they almost always give useless

Re: [hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-16 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Agreed, I'll remove it. Thanks Steve and Yoann! I'll remove them from 5.5 soon, you can then merge the removal in 6.0 or do it differently if that's easier. This is the JIRA: - https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-13952 Regarding OSGi (which Yoann raised): I agree we shouldn't spend

Re: [hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-16 Thread Steve Ebersole
Considering the changes in WildFly, I also think we should just drop hibernate-orm-modules. For 6.0 I will definitely do this. I also think removing it is good for 5.5. Not sure it is even worth the hassle for earlier releases however. On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:03 PM Sanne Grinovero wrote:

Re: [hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-16 Thread Yoann Rodiere
Hello, As far as I know, the feature packs are here for two reasons: 1. To test compatibility of ORM with WildFly while still developing it. 2. To provide non-official (wrt. WildFly) ways to upgrade ORM to the latest version within WildFly. #1 does not look *that* important for 5.5, since we

[hibernate-dev] Remove or disable the WildFly feature packs of Hibernate ORM?

2020-04-15 Thread Sanne Grinovero
As we're working to upgrade to Jakarta EE 9, our feature packs for Wildfly are not going to be functional for a while at least. Not only do we have to upgrade to JPA 3, but we also need to upgrade our integrations with a different Validator, a different CDI - none of these are provided by WildFly