Re: [hibernate-dev] hibernate-mapping DTD as XSD

2010-08-22 Thread Steve Ebersole
I think of it more like deprecating the DTD in favor of XSD; but I am known for unique views on deprecation :) -- Sent from my Palm Pre st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.orgOn Aug 20, 2010 10:52 AM, Paul Benedict wrote: Interesting. That is a good way to get the commu

Re: [hibernate-dev] hibernate-mapping DTD as XSD

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Benedict
Interesting. That is a good way to get the community testing it out. In fact, perhaps you can label the XSD feature as "caveat emptor" (pun) until it rolls out officially in 4.0? On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Do we offer both for 3.6 to start working out any kinks in t

Re: [hibernate-dev] hibernate-mapping DTD as XSD

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Ebersole
Do we offer both for 3.6 to start working out any kinks in the XSD for 4? I think that seems reasonable, provided we are good about not doing DTD changes after 3.6.0.Final. On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 09:27 -0500, Paul Benedict wrote: > I don't vote for keeping them in sync. DTDs can't compete with the

Re: [hibernate-dev] hibernate-mapping DTD as XSD

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Benedict
I don't vote for keeping them in sync. DTDs can't compete with the validation of XSD. I would favor making this a 4.0 feature. Paul On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > *If* we are going to keep both then we need to keep them in-synch and so > I'd prefer a java or command li

Re: [hibernate-dev] hibernate-mapping DTD as XSD

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Ebersole
*If* we are going to keep both then we need to keep them in-synch and so I'd prefer a java or command line tool that we could use to automate the process (obviously if we drop dtd for xsd this is not a concern). I had seen both Trang as well as the w3c tool. I guess more I was asking if anyone

Re: [hibernate-dev] hibernate-mapping DTD as XSD

2010-08-20 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:07:31 +0200, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Any objections to either converting to XSD completely or publishing in > both formats? +1 for XSD only. Not sure if there is any use in keeping the DTD. > Anyone recommend a good DTD -> XSD tool? Oxygen can do it. That would be my f

[hibernate-dev] hibernate-mapping DTD as XSD

2010-08-19 Thread Steve Ebersole
Any objections to either converting to XSD completely or publishing in both formats? What I'd really like is to be able to parse and validate a mapping document in separate steps. The validation would come from javax.xml.validation package. However that package does not support DTD, only XSD.