Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-12-02 Thread John Franey
Max, Its not noteworthy, but keep an eye on it. A plug-in with a buddy policy will look in its buddies whenever it can't find a class by normal means. Its not bad until the plug-in has lots of buddies and needs to find lots of classes through the buddy policy. I don't have a quantitive re

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-12-02 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
thanks - i saw it earlier today. good stuff...wish it were easier. I noticed you mentioned performance issues with buddy classloading - is it noteworthy/bad? I wrote about logger plugins with SLF4J, and submitted it to EclipseZone. It was just posted today. I hope its useful to you. h

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-12-02 Thread John Franey
Max, I wrote about logger plugins with SLF4J, and submitted it to EclipseZone. It was just posted today. I hope its useful to you. http://www.eclipsezone.com/eclipse/forums/t55300.html John --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-11-02 Thread John Franey
Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:35:47 +0100, John Franey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Max, Sorry for the delay. Attached are the manifest files. The attachment is a zip file disguised. SourceForge bounces mail that has extension '.zip', so I used a different extension.

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-11-02 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:35:47 +0100, John Franey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Max, Sorry for the delay. Attached are the manifest files. The attachment is a zip file disguised. SourceForge bounces mail that has extension '.zip', so I used a different extension. thank you. Did I understand

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-11-01 Thread John Franey
Max, Sorry for the delay. Attached are the manifest files. The attachment is a zip file disguised. SourceForge bounces mail that has extension '.zip', so I used a different extension. John Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: yes, this is the right forum since im interested in this for the ecl

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-10-31 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
yes, this is the right forum since im interested in this for the eclipse plugins. would be good if you could send the manifest.mf so i can relate it to the text. thanks. /max Max, *1: Centralize all logging configuration to a single file: * jdk1.4 logging: By default, jdk logging finds

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-10-31 Thread John Franey
Max, 1: Centralize all logging configuration to a single file: jdk1.4 logging: By default, jdk logging finds config file in jre/lib directory, but this doesn't put control of the configuration into the rcp provider unless the provider is also delivering a full jre.  Better to set the java.ut

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-10-30 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
I also found solutions to some other issues like: how to centralize all logging configuration to a single file, and how an appender in hibernate plugin can be found by the log4j plugin, and how to swap to a different slf4j implementation library so jdk logging, nlog4j or simple log I'm wi

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-10-30 Thread John Franey
Max, Alexandre, Also available from slf4j is the common logging layer implemented atop slf4j layer. This will support both APIs at the same time for a smooth transition from commons logging to slf4j. Eclipse class finding algorithm will find classes imported to a plugin before it finds the

Re: [Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-10-28 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
yes, i also find slf4j interesting, but afaik it won't help solve the logging problem while other components i use uses common logging. And it will also still have issues with duplicate configuration etc., but im not sure. /max Hi. When developing eclipse plugins, I ended up with a severe

[Hibernate] JCL classloading headache

2005-10-28 Thread Alexandre Torres
Hi. When developing eclipse plugins, I ended up with a severe limitation when a plugins makes reference to the apache-commons-logging library AND each other. Well, digging around I found the slf4j library (http://www.slf4j.org/) that seems to solve my problem. The cenario where the problem arose wa