Miika,

It is not clear from reading the draft, that the mobility described is moving to a different NATed network. It just as well only be talking about mobility within the one NATed network.

Or I am just a little too tired right now to see it.  But I don't think so.

Bob


On 11/25/2016 01:59 AM, Miika Komu wrote:

Hi Robert,

yes, mobility support is specified in the draft.

*From:*Robert Moskowitz [mailto:r...@htt-consult.com]
*Sent:* Friday, November 25, 2016 6:33 AM
*To:* Miika Komu <miika.k...@ericsson.com>; hipsec@ietf.org
*Subject:* Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14.txt

Miika,

Does this draft cover the use case where the mobile HIP device moves from one NATed network to another. Consider you are in Starbucks and move next door to Dunkin Donuts.

Your device did this augmented BEX exchange in Starbucks. You walk into DD and your interface decides the signal from SB is too weak, but it has the saved SSID for DD and switches (Gee I wonder if it could be the same 1918 address! oh boy.). Would this work as a mobility update or a new BEX?

On 11/24/2016 05:37 AM, Miika Komu wrote:

    Hi,

    I read the latest version of the ICE specs. Based on this, I
    included more details on ICE processing to the HIP NAT traversal
    draft. A quick summary of the changes:

    * Introduced more details from ice-bis draft
      * New terminology
      * Aligned connectivity check procedure to match with ICE (3-way
    check is now 4-way)
      * Ta minimum value is now 5 ms (according to ICE bis)
      * 4.9 Handoff: first update HIP relay to in order learn new
    server reflexive locators
      * New sections:
         * 4.6.3.  Rules for Concluding Connectivity Checks
         * 6.6.  Amplification attacks (new section)
         * 6.7.  Attacks against Connectivity Checks and Candidate
    Gathering
         * Appendix C.  Differences to ICE
         * Appendix D.  Differences to Base Exchange and UPDATE
    procedures
      * 7. IANA Considerations: added UNSAF considerations (references
    ICE)
    * updated references (some drafts are now RFCs)

    Feedback is welcome! For people already familiar with HIP, I'd
    recommend reading "the diff to normal HIP" in section
    
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14#appendix-D

    On 11/24/2016 10:32 AM, internet-dra...@ietf.org
    <mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org> wrote:


        A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
        Internet-Drafts directories.
        This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol of the
        IETF.

                Title           : Native NAT Traversal Mode for the
        Host Identity Protocol
                Authors         : Ari Keranen
                                  Jan Melén
                                  Miika Komu
            Filename        : draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14.txt
            Pages           : 51
            Date            : 2016-11-24

        Abstract:
           This document specifies a new Network Address Translator (NAT)
           traversal mode for the Host Identity Protocol (HIP). The
        new mode is
           based on the Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE)
        methodology
           and UDP encapsulation of data and signaling traffic. The main
           difference from the previously specified modes is the use
        of HIP
           messages for all NAT traversal procedures.


        The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal/


        There's also a htmlized version available at:
        https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14


        A diff from the previous version is available at:
        https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-14



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        ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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